My hardwood floor problem is the home builder used hardwood from a previous
house.Instead of finishing it he glued carpet down on it. Now 2 carpets
later I want to refinish the floor. HOw do I remove the glue left behind?
If I take my shoe and rub the floor vigoriously the glue rolls off. Is
there a safe solvent I can use? Also the floor is sort of creaky but that
part I can live with.
I just wanted to say that as a hardwood flooring professional of 17 years I
really appreciated this article. Many people don't understand the expertise
involved in repairing a hardwood floor and this article explained the
challenges very well. In regard to the question about the glue, it
generally just gets sanded off during a refinish.
erin
16 Oct 2008, 22:23
I just want to say, as an avid and intrepid DIY'er, I really appreciate
this article, too. Tim, you are so encouraging of DIY projects that I know
if you recommend not to DIY, it really isn't a DIY project. Thank you for
your honest and detailed explanation of what a PITA hardwood repair can be.
Rebecca Zubis
17 Oct 2008, 08:01
Hi Tim. I really thought you were a bit negative, or maybe I've just been
lucky. I've done this 8-10 times for myself and friends. First I mask the
area around with real duct tape(because I'm kind of a klutz).I use a drill
with a 1 1/2 inch bit to remove a lot of stock (sometimes I do go a bit
into the sub floor, but not much). I use a rotary cutter to get the extra
bits out. To replace the piece I drill the pilot holes and start the face
nails and use them as handles to replace the piece. I practiced on a mock
up the first time. If you don't have a matching piece test stains,
indelible markers on the reverse. I use at least 5 coats of varathane
sanding lightly between each with 000 steel wool & don't forget the tack
cloth. Carefully set nails & fill, don't forget the varathane over fills or
you can see the difference in sheen.
artur
21 Oct 2008, 13:23
Don't nail this darn new piece of hardwood. Glue it in with PL400.
Nails look really ugly so avoid them.
Don't use any other glue, has to be PL400 as it keeps flexibility and if
floor has to move PL400 will give in a little bit.
Marc
30 Oct 2008, 12:38
Hello,
I've recently had my hardwoods refinished. The house is only three years
old, but the previous owner didn't care for them very well.
I got a few estimates, and went with one I felt comfortable that had the
right balance of price and experience. Dust, odor and timeliness is a
concern of mine, because my wife is 6.5 months pregnant. I was told that
all that was needed was a 'light sanding' and one thick coat of poly.
We scheduled the job for a friday and stayed at a hotel for two nights so
the house could ventilate.
They used a floor buffer attached to an industrial vaccum (no dust, which
was good). The buffer used pads that I can only describe as screen-like.
They kept binding, and little rolls of some substance kept collecting
underneith. He had to change these pads 5 times (on 500ish sqft). Saying
that it must've been wax buildup.
They did a quick vaccuming of the surfaces (causing some concern). Then
slapped down a thick layer of poly. Everything seemed fine.
When we returned two days later, it still looked wet. To my surprise, it
wasn't wet, but it was HIGH gloss. Upon further inspection, there were
dozens of spots where the poly seemed repelled by the old surface (either
wax, or an unclean area). Unhappy, I contacted him to fix the spots,
figuring that I'd live with the sheen.
He arrived a few days later, sanded each 'spot' and applied poly by brush
to each spot. It looks worse than before, because the gloss makes these
patches painfully obvious.
Long story short, I have an upset pregnant wife and no time to do it over
again. Of course, it's the most traveled, most visible part of the house
(entrance hall), so i'll be reminded of it every day.
Can a second coat of Semi gloss or Satin be applied over a high gloss
coat?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, both in contractor evaluation, job
execution and where to go from here. I'm in Attleboro MA if you have any
referrals.
I would suggest to must use an orbital sander or a mouse sander with 150
grit, and just lightly sand any un-even-ness in the high gloss finish area
where he spot treated the wax repelled spots and feel with your fingers
untill it feels like a straight finish(only sand the clearcoat, do not sand
too much, you do not want to go thru the poly and into the wood!!) then use
220 grit WetSand orbital over the sanded area, then 320 grit WetSand, then
600 grit WetSand, then 1000 grit WetSand, then 2000 grit WetSand and then
use a car buffing wool pad and rubbing compound. This is the way auto body
shops spot paint. I've done this before on my hardwood refinish and worked
beautifully!
Most of these supplies you will find at an autoparts/autobody supply store
and a "hook and sand" type orbital sander will make your project a breeze
and you'll be done the same day!! Good luck!
Ann Nguyen
16 Jan 2009, 21:09
I just got new tongue-in-groove hardwood flooring installed. It looks like
the end of one piece got forced in and now there's a small chip
approximately 0.5 x 2.5cm right at the end affecting the corner edge. Can
this be repaired with wood filler and a coating of some
protectant/polyurethane? Or should the entire piece of wood need to be
removed?
Linda
08 Mar 2009, 15:12
Is there a colored caulk that can be used in the gaps between boards of a
prefinished a wood floor? Putty & wood filler comes out during seasonal
changes.
I am curious about rplacing a board I'm not sure I agree with artur'
comment to glue the board. If I liberqally glue up the back of the board
will itg not creqte aq dead spot or area that either does not move or
expands and contracts at a different rate? What are your thoughts.
Lauren
17 Jun 2009, 10:43
Hi, I wonder if anyone could answer my question: I just bought a house and
am having the hardwood floors refinished. Most of the floors were covered
by carpet and are in good shape. Upstairs, however, it appears that the
floors are applied right on the joists with no subfloor underneath, and
they have cracked and separated in a few places. What can I do to fill in
these cracks, and hide/protect the insulation that is right below, before
the refinishing is done? Linda mentioned caulk, is that a real option? Or
can I wedge in something shim like?
Any help is appreciated! You can even email me: vanilla chnchilla at gmail.
Thanks!
rb skene
01 Oct 2009, 06:51
i need some advice on what floor guys call thatching. fitting new and old
together, to make a new floor. one third of our room is not finished with
hardwood. we have four areas that require patching. is this an acceptable
method of completing the floor. let me know. thankyou
Candy
02 Jun 2010, 01:32
Tim,
I have a new construction and we had brazzilian walnut hardwood installed
in our house. Well the installer did a horrible job and we have seems that
are very large. We brought this to their attention right a way (which was
in Jan) and they assured us that the joints would close up when it got hot.
Well it's June and we still have large joints and to make matters worse
they filled the seems with putty and the putty is cracking and is the wrong
color for the wood. What can we do? The builder suggested that they
resand it etc. I don't see that correcting the problem. I think the only
way to correct the problem would be to take the whole floor out and re-lay
it correctly. The hardwood installers are coming tomorrow and I just don't
want any excuses. Thank you. Concerned...
Hardwood Repair
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08 Oct 2008, 08:28
10 Oct 2008, 19:36
16 Oct 2008, 22:23
17 Oct 2008, 08:01
21 Oct 2008, 13:23
Nails look really ugly so avoid them.
Don't use any other glue, has to be PL400 as it keeps flexibility and if floor has to move PL400 will give in a little bit.
30 Oct 2008, 12:38
I've recently had my hardwoods refinished. The house is only three years old, but the previous owner didn't care for them very well.
I got a few estimates, and went with one I felt comfortable that had the right balance of price and experience. Dust, odor and timeliness is a concern of mine, because my wife is 6.5 months pregnant. I was told that all that was needed was a 'light sanding' and one thick coat of poly.
We scheduled the job for a friday and stayed at a hotel for two nights so the house could ventilate.
They used a floor buffer attached to an industrial vaccum (no dust, which was good). The buffer used pads that I can only describe as screen-like. They kept binding, and little rolls of some substance kept collecting underneith. He had to change these pads 5 times (on 500ish sqft). Saying that it must've been wax buildup.
They did a quick vaccuming of the surfaces (causing some concern). Then slapped down a thick layer of poly. Everything seemed fine.
When we returned two days later, it still looked wet. To my surprise, it wasn't wet, but it was HIGH gloss. Upon further inspection, there were dozens of spots where the poly seemed repelled by the old surface (either wax, or an unclean area). Unhappy, I contacted him to fix the spots, figuring that I'd live with the sheen.
He arrived a few days later, sanded each 'spot' and applied poly by brush to each spot. It looks worse than before, because the gloss makes these patches painfully obvious.
Long story short, I have an upset pregnant wife and no time to do it over again. Of course, it's the most traveled, most visible part of the house (entrance hall), so i'll be reminded of it every day.
Can a second coat of Semi gloss or Satin be applied over a high gloss coat?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, both in contractor evaluation, job execution and where to go from here. I'm in Attleboro MA if you have any referrals.
Thanks in advance,
Marc
10 Dec 2008, 22:48
Most of these supplies you will find at an autoparts/autobody supply store and a "hook and sand" type orbital sander will make your project a breeze and you'll be done the same day!! Good luck!
16 Jan 2009, 21:09
08 Mar 2009, 15:12
05 May 2009, 20:39
17 Jun 2009, 10:43
Any help is appreciated! You can even email me: vanilla chnchilla at gmail. Thanks!
01 Oct 2009, 06:51
02 Jun 2010, 01:32
I have a new construction and we had brazzilian walnut hardwood installed in our house. Well the installer did a horrible job and we have seems that are very large. We brought this to their attention right a way (which was in Jan) and they assured us that the joints would close up when it got hot. Well it's June and we still have large joints and to make matters worse they filled the seems with putty and the putty is cracking and is the wrong color for the wood. What can we do? The builder suggested that they resand it etc. I don't see that correcting the problem. I think the only way to correct the problem would be to take the whole floor out and re-lay it correctly. The hardwood installers are coming tomorrow and I just don't want any excuses. Thank you. Concerned...
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