Home Humidity Needs Balance
Summary: Humidity and temperature are correlated. Turn down your humidifier output as the outside temperature drops, or expect condensation problems. Too little humidity causes static electricity and a drag on fuel bills, but too much can cause damage.
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Overdoing it - Too Much Humidity Creates Problems
I have a humidifier attached to my forced air heating system. It is a neat device. Many people have them. Every time the furnace turns on, a little electronic switch opens a small water valve. Water flows over a pad through which air flows. The water evaporates from this pad into the air. BINGO! The humidity starts to rise inside your home.
Well, sometimes - and this has happened to me - you can get too much humidity. I have gone to bed with everything just fine. The furnace was humming and the humidifier working just fine. I wake up and it looks like someone turned on a lawn sprinkler inside my house near every window. Water is running down the windows and pooling on the floor! I usually run around cleaning up saying, "We've had a major malfunction. All engineering personnel report to the quarter deck immediately!"
The cause of the problem is easy to identify. Two things possibly occurred at the same time: the inside relative humidity was climbing and/or the outdoor temperature level dropped. Usually it is the outside temperature drop that causes the problem. The inside temperature of the window glass drops as the outside temperature drops. The water vapor in the air begins to condense as the temperature of the glass drops.
Hidden Problems
If you have had water condense on your windows like me, you may have had more serious problems. There is a good chance that water condensed on hidden, cold wall or attic spaces. Remember earlier we talked about air leaking into and out of your house? Well, those places where it is leaking out may be saturated with water. Recently I had a caller to my radio show tell me about basement fiberglass insulation that was saturated with water. The insulation was up against the band board (rim joist) just above the foundation. This framing lumber has a direct connection to the cold siding outside.
It transmits this cold into the basement. Just like a cold can of soda or beer begins to sweat in the summer humidity, so will this rim joist inside. But, what happens if this is going on inside the walls of your house where you can't see? How about your attic? These are all possibilities. Wood rot, mildew, etc. can become a real threat.
Maintaining a Balance
If you have a humidifier, or plan to purchase one, you need to pay attention to outdoor weather. If the temperature is forecast to drop over a period of hours, you may wish to turn down or limit the amount of humidity you are introducing into your air.
Many manufacturers recommend that you adjust your humidifier to a setting just before any fog would appear at the edges of a window. Remember, this fog will appear at different outdoor temperatures and different indoor relative humidities. It is not easy to do! There is no one setting that will work for all outdoor temperatures. Plus, if you have a programmable indoor furnace thermostat the problem gets worse! At night, you probably have the thermostat set itself back 5 to 7 degrees. Well guess what? This will cause the indoor relative humidity to rise in and of itself with no adjustment at all to your humidifier. Maintaining proper indoor humidity is not easy.
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Comments:
Anthony Willis 21 Dec 2007, 11:33
What is the purpose of the humidifiers incorporated into heating systems?
It seems that if the indoor humidity is too high, just turn off the
humidifier? I now this isn't the correct line of reasoning, but it seems to
be a logical conclusion.
Jeannie H. 28 Jan 2008, 11:21
We purchased a home and installed a humidifer to our forced air heating
system. This winter we experienced a week of below zero temps and our
windows were covered in frost & water. We have since turned down the
humidifier to 30%, but now we have attic frost. The temps are now around 20
degrees and we have wet insulation and dripping ceilings. Our insulation
is old and only 12", but I'm wondering if the high humidity could have
caused this problem, and should we be concerned with other areas of the
home? Thanks for any input.
AsktheBuilder 28 Jan 2008, 11:29
Jeannie,
You caused the problem. You should have a humidifier that has an outdoor temperature sensor so this does not happen.
Lisa 07 Oct 2008, 14:30
We have been in our home for about 4 years now. The house is located in
Kansas. When we bought the house, it was in need of some repairs. We had
the siding replaced with the Hardie board siding and new windows were also
installed. The house is 2 story with basement and is about 2400 sq ft. Now
my problem is high humidity. It is in every part of the house. The humidity
level will be around 65 to 82% and that is with nothing really running such
as a shower,
dishwasher, dryer or a/c. Is my house too tight or do I have air leaks? I don't have water or any moisure around my windows. There is no smell but it does feel a little moist and it gets real dusty in the house. Thank you for any help or ideas.
Bill 07 Dec 2008, 19:31
Question: Is there any simple way
to tell what the indoor RH should be with an outdoor temp. of 32F and an indoor temp. of 72F? A few days ago the indoor Rh was 29% and I ended up with a dry throat and a cold. I increased the RH and it is now at 34%. Is that too much?? Should I back it down? Thank You. Bill
Rudy Aguilar 09 Feb 2009, 09:41
Last year we had water leaking onto our bedroom ceiling from the attic. We
dried out the attic and replaced the insulation. This year the same thing
happened. We had the soffit vents checked and they were clean. We also
have a whole home humidifier. Could this be causing our problem?
Thanks.
Carol Lee 26 Jul 2009, 13:42
We live in a home built in the 70's in Arizona.
Currently, our daily temps are around 110 degrees. What percent humidity should we set the new Trane AC at? We keep the temp around 80 during the day when we are not home and it goes down automatically to 76 degrees during the nights. Thank you.
Eric 14 Nov 2009, 18:27
My house was built early 80's, 2x4 walls R12 insulation in walls. I just
installed new triple pane windows, insulation on outside of house, new
siding,new high efficient furnace and water heater.
I seem to have lots of condensation especially on my big picture window in living room which wasn't changed and is only double pane. Also, my house is only 1200 sq.ft open concept. What can I do other than a dehumidifier to help remedy this. I live in Alberta Canada. Thanks
Frank 17 Dec 2009, 12:06
In early 2008, my wife and I bought a brand new spec. home, north of
Detroit. The house is 3800 sq.ft., has 2 force-air natural gas furnaces
with built in humidifiers (on the warm air ducts) and Honeywell
controllers. We have a serious problem with condensation on our windows.
The BiltBest windows are wood framed with aluminum exterior cladding. The
inside temperature is pretty constant at about 70F. When the outside
temperature dropped below freezing, I set the humidifiers at “30” and
our hygrometer then read the inside humidity at 38%. There was significant
condensation on several, but not all, the windows. Water pooled up on the
wood sills and ran down the walls. I lowered the setting on the
humidifiers down to 15 and the hygrometer now ranges from 27% to 32%. The
outside temperature this week is about 15-20F. We still have water pooling
on the sills. The paint is peeling and the wood on the “crank-outs” is
turning black with mildew. We have a ceiling fan that run 24/7 for
circulation and I checked that both make-up air vents (that feed the
furnace cold air returns) are open. Both are insulated for the 1st 20 feet
and then typical vent pipe for the next 10 feet. There is condensation on
these bare pipes, but this does not surprise me. We have a full basement
which is maintained at about 60F, but is not insulated or finished.
This has been going on for the past 2 winters and both I and the builder are puzzled. Do you have any idea on what might be causing this. The humidity seems to be lower than recommended and I really don’t want to lower it further as my kids already have dry, red skin. Any suggestions? Any input would be appreciated. Thank You
Confused 07 Jan 2010, 22:06
Frank, we have the same thing as you. Our builder is confused we keep our
house at about 27% relative humidity and our air exchanger runs 24/7. I
wonder if adding a heater to the air exchange will help. It is currently
pumping cold air into the house. Anyone know if this will help? Our
windows pool water every winter, it is a nightmare and the windows are
getting trashed.
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