Does the closet flange have to be at the same height (even) with the finish
floor? I recently installed new tile in my bathroom that used to have sheet
vinyl. The new finish floor is now approx. 5/16" higher than the top of the
existing closet flange. I am worried about two things:
1. The entire weight of the toilet will be setting on the tile. When I
tighten the toilet or if there is a heavy person on it, will the tile get
cracked.
2. Will the typical wax seal still provide an adequate seal?
AsktheBuilder
05 Jan 2008, 06:22
Mike,
Great question. The top of the flange needs to be 3/8 inch higher than the
finished floor. You need to add one or two flange extenders and maybe an
extra wax ring.
Eric
11 Jan 2008, 20:44
Man, that's no joke. Just had to tear out part of a brand new hardwood
floor (which raised the floor height about a quarter inch higher than the
old vinyl floor). It leaked and ruined a few of the boards. When I pulled
the toilet up, the wax ring looked practically new. In other words, the
toilet was setting too high on the finished floor to press down and
compress the wax ring.
Mark
06 Feb 2008, 10:30
What distance should the center of the drain hole be away from the DRYWALL
to install the esisting toilet in a diferent place in my bath remodel? You
are going to tell me to measure the old one but I am remodeling while
living in the house and need the toilet while I am preparing the bath for
the switch. Mark
Josh
19 Mar 2008, 22:28
I just had a toilet installed and three days later, there is still an odor.
It still smells the same as when he had the old toilet removed for several
hours while he returned to the warehouse for more supplies. Is this normal
for a few days, or did he fail to follow a critical step? I did see him put
in the new wax ring.
AsktheBuilder
21 Mar 2008, 12:43
Josh,
It is not normal for there to be an odor. The ring may not have made
complete contact with the toilet.
patti
07 Apr 2008, 13:17
my question is were putting a small building in are yard by the pool for a
toliet and sink,we have a septic tank and there is a clean out pipe right
there,to connect to what all do we need to install the toliet as far as
venting and things like that..thanks a bunch patti
AsktheBuilder
10 Apr 2008, 19:35
Patti,
Your comment made my night..... :-> You need some sweet plumbing skills.
Or a friend like me who is a master plumber to come over and tutor you.
I just installed new toitet. When I tightened bolts connected to flange I
noticed it never got tight. I took off the toilet and noticed flange had
pulled out of floor. How do I reconnect flange without taking up any floor
tile? Can flange be gorilla glued to subfloor instead of screws which
pulled out?
Bill G
18 Apr 2008, 12:15
I recently had tile installed over a vinyl floor in the bathroom. I reset
the existing toilet with a new wax ring with plastic horn. The toilet now
rocks a little from side to side. It does not leak and no oder is present.
I have a shim on both sides to stop the rocking. Should I leave like this
and just use grout or thin set to fill in the space? The toilet originally
had a very hard "caulk" type bead between the toilet base and the floor
that I had to scrape off. I could use that again if I knew what it was. It
would be much harder than grout and would keep the pot from rocking.
mike
03 May 2008, 22:11
I am installing plumbing underground at this time. I have a couple of
questions about the installation;
1. Does the bathtub need to have a pee trap at teh drain, or does it
simply tie into a 90 degree connection?
2. Do I need to install a pee trap at any of the fixtures?
Rick W.
21 May 2008, 11:18
I am having a slab on grade foundation poured for a home I'm building. I've
got to draw out the locations where the toilet drains are going based on
the floor plan. I saw where you wrote the standard distance from the back
wall is 12 inches. Is that to the closest edge of the opening or the center
of the opening? Since the bathroom walls aren't load bearing I have
flexibility but I want to get as close to the plan as possible.
Gayle
17 Sep 2008, 20:08
How far should the toilet be from the wall?
Don
28 Sep 2008, 12:24
When framing a wall for a new toilet is the wall 12 inches from the
outside of the pipe or from the centre?
Marty
17 Oct 2008, 16:21
I am finishing my basement and I would like to install a bathroom. The
rough plumbing is already done but I don't think the toilet drain is far
enough away from the wall to put a toilet in once the wall is framed out
with 2x4's. What is the standard and minimum distance from a wall for a
toilet? What are my options if there is not enough room?
Thank You!
eric
29 Nov 2008, 16:42
The bolt holes on the flange do not match up with the mounting holes in the
bottom of the commode. (this is a re-install d/t new floor covering) Is
there ant way to rotate the flange? I need about 5 degrees in a clockwise
direction for the holes to align. Thank you.
eric
29 Nov 2008, 16:48
Also in addition to the above question regarding flange bolt holes, I can
get the bolts into the grooves, but when I try to tighten them up, they pop
right out of the groove!
Patti
02 Dec 2008, 13:47
just installed new toilet all went well until hooked up water. Water flow
to tank is good but will not come thru the float thingy it just comes out
in drops so takes tank forever to fill after flushing. Any suggestions.
Thanks
Andy
02 Dec 2008, 14:55
I am in similar situation as Mike. We put subfloor, pinewood then vinyl on
top of the basement concrete floor. Our floor is now about half inch
higher than the top of the flange. The plumber said the risk of the flange
extender is that he can not guarantee there will be no leak from the
joints.
What is the better and proper way to install the toilet in my case?
thanks
Andy
02 Dec 2008, 15:04
Sorry, I mean flange spacer, not flange extender. The problem is the
plumber couldn't find a flange extender that fit into the flange that he
used.
I am in similar situation as Mike. We put subfloor, pinewood then vinyl on
top of the basement concrete floor. Our floor is now about half inch higher
than the top of the flange. The plumber said the risk of the flange
extender is that he can not guarantee there will be no leak from the
joints.
What is the better and proper way to install the toilet in my case?
thanks
Dena Combs
13 Dec 2008, 07:46
I am getting ready to install a new toilet in my bathroom. There is no new
flooring or any extra things to worry about but I have only done this one
other time. I dont remember using caulking after the installation of the
last one. Is this necessary on all toilet installations? Also, just so I
am clear, can I use the exsisting water lines? I know I need to use a new
wax ring but do I need to replace all of the lines, etc?
bob
26 Dec 2008, 16:02
I am installing a new toilet.the toilet sits about 3/4 of an inch off the
floor with no sl in yet. What should I do?Subfloor? Grout? It is a new
install in a basement.The previous owners may have been planning ceramic
tile.
Oren T.
03 Jan 2009, 10:34
I have an offset flange that drives me crazy whenever I replace the wax
ring. If I use a regular ring, a portion of the opening remains exposed
and water just leaks out, I've tried using two rings and molding them to
fit and cover the opening with limited success. Any tips or suggestions?
rod myers
10 Feb 2009, 14:59
how much distance is required between the end of a toilet and a wall or tub
Gary K
28 Feb 2009, 17:44
Some time ago I had to remove the water closet on one of my toilets and
when I re-installed it I thought it needed to be bolted down to the bowl so
that it was "Rock Solid". When I tried to pull it down solid to the bowl,
it cracked the water closet. Needless to say that became an expensive
lesson. Now I am paranoid about pulling down the water closet solid to the
bowl.
I recently bought a new toilet to replace the one that was broken. The
instructions say to pull the water closet down to where it just touches the
base of the bowl, but also says DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN. I have tightened the
bolts to where there is very little movement if you push on the front of
the water closet, but it is not "rock solid".
None of the water closets rest against a wall.
My question is this: while free standing, is the water closet supposed to
be "Solid" against the base of the bowl, with no vertical movement if you
put some pressure on the front of it?
louis rowey
13 Mar 2009, 02:16
I have a flush master, installed,
the rubber flapper at times does not
drop and water continues to flow what am I doing wrong?
i want to put a bathroom in my basement. My drain pipe for my sewer is up
above the floor of the basement. Will I have to have a sump pump connection
to install the commode, sink and shower?
Rick B
11 Jun 2009, 05:18
Hi ... I'm having a bath renovation done, and the new toilet has been
installed with a 4-1/4 inch gap between the back/top of the tank and the
wall. The gap is not crowding me for space in front, and I realize that
some gap is nice for cleaning and painting, but this seems way too much.
Is there a standard distance the tank should be from the wall? It seems as
if most tiolets I see are 1 to 2 inches ...
Thanks, Rick
Gary
29 Dec 2009, 08:48
I am trying to replace an old toilet. The rough-in distance is 13.25" from
the wall, so if I install a 14" one, it will be too tight against the wall.
I currently have a new 12" one in place (that I'm trying to replace), but
the tank rocks back and forth when you sit on it (American Standard Cadet
3), because it doesn't sit against the wall, it's about 1.5" from the wall.
I really don't want to install an offset flange in the new tile flooring.
What would you suggest?
Tim Rupert
21 Mar 2010, 07:24
Mr. Holmes,
I re-installed a toilet that is only 2 years old, it will not siphon,
it flushes ok, it is sealed on the floor, do you think it could be leakibg
air inside the trap????
I would appreciate your input.
Thank you T Rupert
Jillane
03 Apr 2010, 10:46
We are trying to install a new toliet. We took up the old one and when we
went to put on the new one we noticed that the flang wasnt going to be
adjustable on one side. What do we do?
greg
18 Apr 2010, 10:18
the best way to install a toilet in my opinion is to also replace the
closet flange and first 6 in of cast iron with pvc and a rubber collar
connector. add to that a thin sub-floor to to solve any rot or leveling
issues, lay your new floor first then install your closet flange, use the
rubber connector for a perfect fit from below. now feel free to sit on your
throne like a true king.
Laura
15 Feb 2011, 18:11
we just had ur toilet re-installed. How long after installation do you have
to wait before normal usage?
paula duncan
22 Feb 2011, 21:58
I recently installed a new toilet in an old house that has a lead 4" pipe
into the iron sewer. I used an expandable seal flange and secured that
flange with stainless steel screws. The next day the sewer started
"singing", no one was using the toilet at the time, meaning it wasn't being
flushed. I'm not sure what to do. Someone told me to stuff a towel in the
open end of the sewer line where the noise seemed to be coming from. Is
this okay to do?
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Comments
03 Jan 2008, 13:30
1. The entire weight of the toilet will be setting on the tile. When I tighten the toilet or if there is a heavy person on it, will the tile get cracked.
2. Will the typical wax seal still provide an adequate seal?
05 Jan 2008, 06:22
Great question. The top of the flange needs to be 3/8 inch higher than the finished floor. You need to add one or two flange extenders and maybe an extra wax ring.
11 Jan 2008, 20:44
06 Feb 2008, 10:30
19 Mar 2008, 22:28
21 Mar 2008, 12:43
It is not normal for there to be an odor. The ring may not have made complete contact with the toilet.
07 Apr 2008, 13:17
10 Apr 2008, 19:35
Your comment made my night..... :-> You need some sweet plumbing skills. Or a friend like me who is a master plumber to come over and tutor you.
14 Apr 2008, 17:58
18 Apr 2008, 12:15
03 May 2008, 22:11
1. Does the bathtub need to have a pee trap at teh drain, or does it simply tie into a 90 degree connection?
2. Do I need to install a pee trap at any of the fixtures?
21 May 2008, 11:18
17 Sep 2008, 20:08
28 Sep 2008, 12:24
17 Oct 2008, 16:21
Thank You!
29 Nov 2008, 16:42
29 Nov 2008, 16:48
02 Dec 2008, 13:47
02 Dec 2008, 14:55
What is the better and proper way to install the toilet in my case?
thanks
02 Dec 2008, 15:04
Here is the picture of the rough-in.
http://picasaweb.google.ca/AndyHWC/Anchor?authkey=0pdhkvnlNiw#5275301374981 361618
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I am in similar situation as Mike. We put subfloor, pinewood then vinyl on top of the basement concrete floor. Our floor is now about half inch higher than the top of the flange. The plumber said the risk of the flange extender is that he can not guarantee there will be no leak from the joints.
What is the better and proper way to install the toilet in my case?
thanks
13 Dec 2008, 07:46
26 Dec 2008, 16:02
03 Jan 2009, 10:34
10 Feb 2009, 14:59
28 Feb 2009, 17:44
I recently bought a new toilet to replace the one that was broken. The instructions say to pull the water closet down to where it just touches the base of the bowl, but also says DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN. I have tightened the bolts to where there is very little movement if you push on the front of the water closet, but it is not "rock solid".
None of the water closets rest against a wall.
My question is this: while free standing, is the water closet supposed to be "Solid" against the base of the bowl, with no vertical movement if you put some pressure on the front of it?
13 Mar 2009, 02:16
the rubber flapper at times does not
drop and water continues to flow what am I doing wrong?
29 Apr 2009, 10:36
11 Jun 2009, 05:18
Is there a standard distance the tank should be from the wall? It seems as if most tiolets I see are 1 to 2 inches ...
Thanks, Rick
29 Dec 2009, 08:48
I really don't want to install an offset flange in the new tile flooring.
What would you suggest?
21 Mar 2010, 07:24
I re-installed a toilet that is only 2 years old, it will not siphon, it flushes ok, it is sealed on the floor, do you think it could be leakibg air inside the trap????
I would appreciate your input.
Thank you T Rupert
03 Apr 2010, 10:46
18 Apr 2010, 10:18
15 Feb 2011, 18:11
22 Feb 2011, 21:58
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