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Calculating Payback for Energy Improvements LIVE Stream Ask the Builder 11-16-2021
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http://www.AsktheBuilder.com founder, Tim Carter, discusses how it can take a very long time to actually SAVE MONEY when making energy improvements. He shows the THREE STEPS that help you calculate how long it takes to start saving money. Tim talks about his daughter's new home on Mt. Desert Island in Downeast Maine, talks about Morse code, shares how to be happy all the time, and discusses how to install affordable radiant heat in a cold bedroom, and also answers many random questions.
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Hi, I'm Tim Carter. And you are watching the Ask the Builder Live Stream for November 16th
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I believe. Yeah, 2021. Thanks so much for joining me and today we're
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we're gonna have a little fun. Uh I wanna let you, I'm gonna talk for the first few minutes
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probably 15 minutes or so about um um about energy saving payback periods
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And then we're gonna go to, you know, you can ask anything. We'll have an open mic WW whatever
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you know, you can ask me any question you want. But at first, please try to keep your questions to the topic that I'm talking
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Ok. Here's what we're gonna talk about and remember you can chat your question
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Uh, we're not in Kansas today. Um, uh, we're gonna talk a little bit about energy savings
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payback. And what I mean by that is I, I tried to find one and
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and I collect these, uh, newspapers. This really neat little newspaper here in New Hampshire called The Weird Times
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And I was looking through a past, uh, a few past issues, but I couldn't find the ad I was looking for and I know
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you've seen ads where it says, um, get these replacement windows and you'll save
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I don't know, 30% on your energy bill or buy this water heater and you'll save 15 percent on your energy bills
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Um, what, whatever it might be, but you get the point. Um, in other words
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you have to spend money to then save money. All right. All right
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So, now this doesn't really apply if your water heater just went bad and you have to get a water heater anyway
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or a new furnace or a boiler or whatever. But frequently you might think you might get
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you might go to a home and garden show and, you know, they have some really professional sales people at these events and they
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they use all types of psychology on you. Uh, there's a really great book you should read called Influence
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That's the title influence. And the subtitle is The Psychology of persuasion
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So, think about that influence if you want to influence somebody and if you want to persuade them to do something
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like, persuade them to open their wallet and get money out. All right
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So it's by Robert Chinni. Robert Chinni. You should really read that book
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Ok. So you're at the home and Garden show? Um, you go by the
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the new vinyl window booth and you, you get sucked in, uh
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by the tractor beam and, and the salesman just starts spinning AAA web around you
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All right. So, um, so here's what he says, he'll say, oh
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if you buy these, these new vinyl windows, um, you're gonna save 35% of your energy bills and in fact
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here's the proof, you know, and he holds up some bills from the local utility company with the name and address
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you know, kind of blacked out, but it's an official bill and, and, and, you know
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and, and, you know, could be less money or no doubt it would be less money
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Uh, but there's all kinds of factors involved because maybe, maybe the
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the, the two winters ago it was really cold winter and the people used a lot of fuel and maybe last winter where he's showing
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you all these savings. It, it was a mild winter. I mean, see, there's all kinds of very complex things that go into the calculation
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All right. But let's start out with a really simple example. Right
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Um Yes Lennon, I did find out what mud is just so
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you know, I, I looked into that. Um, very interesting. All right. So, but we'll talk about that later on
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All right. So here's, here's, I made some little very crude, um
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slides for you and I'll hold them up and, and we'll, we'll get started
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So, here's the first one. and so I need some help, so I need to be able to see it
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So the first thing to do to be able to, to, uh, figure out what is going on is you need to calculate what your
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annual heating cost is. Let's say that the savings is for, you know
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uh, you're gonna put in, you know, new vinyl windows. All right, or
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or, or whatever, just insulation. How about we'll just do insulation. So
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a salesman is trying to save more insulation and he says you're gonna save a lot of money
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So, the first thing you have to do is figure out how much are you spending a year in heating cost
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Well, it's not always easy to do, but here's a really simple way
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It's not completely accurate, but it gets you pretty close. If you heat your home with natural gas or propane
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just get out your monthly bills and look at what you spend for gas
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natural gas, you know, for, you know, June, July and August because your
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your furnaces are on and, you know, but you're still using gas for your water heater and maybe your stove and you find out that
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you're spending, you know, $40 a month each month for June, July and August
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So let's just say, you know, your water heater and your stove
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you're using $40 a month all year round. All right. So 40 times 12 is $480
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So if your total gas bill for the entire year is I'm just
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I just made this number up is 1880. It means that you spend about $1400 a year to heat your home
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Ok. So that's, that's the simple way, you know how to just roughly figure out
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you know what, what you're spending a year to hit your home. Some utility companies um
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have got, they actually with these electric smart meters and some of these smart metering devices
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they can actually tell you very closely what you're spending a year to heat your home
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You know, people like me, I use propane and I'm in the same situation
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but I, I pretty much know I can get really closest to what I'm spending a year on to heat my home because I can
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see how little propane I use throughout the summer. You know, the late spring
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all summer, long and early fall when, when my boiler is not on to heat the house
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All right. So, uh, those of you who use electric, um, it's a little bit more complicated
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You have to, if you have electric only, then you have to look at periods of time when you're not heating and when you don't
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have your air conditioning on to kind of get an average cost of what kind of electric you're using
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Um, you know, through, you know, through the um uh the year on a monthly basis and then you have to start
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to look at what are you spending to heat your home? You know
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your heat pump, you know, from October, you know, through April, right
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So it, you, you're, you're pretty smart, you can figure this out, you can get close
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All right. So now what's the next step? All right. So the next step
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it's really simple math, you know, this from grade school, you actually whatever that the salesman says
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um, he says, oh, you're gonna save 25 percent if on your utility bill
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if you put this insulation in. All right. So 25% times 1400 if I did my math right is uh $350
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a year. All right, you got that. So if you, if you're spending $1400 a year to heat your home
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now, let's forget about installation and air conditioning, all that. We're just gonna do a really simple calculation
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So 350 bucks, you know. Um, is all, you're gonna save a year in your fuel if
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if he's right, if you really do save 25 percent. All right. Now
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what, so, now, let's figure out how long does it take to break even
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Because in other words, think about this, you're gonna write a check for $2000 you know
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and you're gonna get this insulation in and at this point you're out 2000 bucks
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I mean, you know. Yeah, you've got more insulation in, but you're, you're $2000 poor
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you know, you don't have that $2000. You had an hour before
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All right. So now what happens? All right. So you calculate the break even point
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Now, don't this is a really crude calculation, ok? Um, and I'll discuss wine just a moment
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So you, you take the $2000 you divide it by $350 a year and it takes 5.714
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years, 5.714 years for you to roughly break even. All right. So that's a long time
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So imagine how long it would take you to break even if you spent
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I don't know, $10,000 on new windows, you know, that, that also only claimed a 25% energy savings
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It would take a long time and it gets worse. All right, it gets worse. So remember if you have any questions about this feel
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free to put them in the comments. I'll, I'll answer them because, uh, some people don't like to do math
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I get it. Uh, but it's really not that hard and you can come back and watch this video again to look at my slides
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and it will help you through the process. All right. How does it get worse
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Well, how does it get more complicated? Number one? Sometimes you'll finance the improvement
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All right. So if you finance it, that means you're gonna pay interest and you have to add the total interest cost
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you know, instead of it being $2000 for the installation with the interest
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it might be. And I'm just making this number up. Ok, let's say that you pay it out over three years or whatever and the
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number is $2300. I'm just making it up. Ok. So you have to then take the 2300 divide that by the 350
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you'll find maybe it's now six years. Uh, it takes you to get to break even
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So here's the point. Um, and, and then here it even gets more complex
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Ok. So, you know, you could have, let's just say you, you didn't spend the $2000 and you
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you just take the $2000 and you invest it in some conservative stocks and bonds in the stock market
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you know, in the equities market or whatever. And let's just say you
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I don't know, you make, um, five or 6% a year. All right
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So, if you kept the $2000 you'd have 2100. Yeah, I know you got to pay taxes on it
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blah, blah, blah. Um, but, but then you, you have to also understand this
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So, um, this is the key point. Remember they, they keep telling you at the booth and everywhere else that you're gonna save
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money, right? You're gonna save money, you're gonna save, save, save, save, save. All right. No, no
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no, no, no. So you don't save any money until such time as the you get paid back in
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full, in the energy savings, all of the money you spent for the improvement
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So in other words, in our very crude example, you have to wait 5.7 years to get back your $2000
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Then the next few months you'll start to save money. All right
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So don't get fooled, don't, don't think of that savings number that
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that, that happens. You remember you're spending money to save money. And so you have to do all this math to find out when you
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actually start to break even. And it's an, it's an actually if you re if A CPA was doing it
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it would be a very complex, a very complex calculation, believe me
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because they're gonna take into account inflation, they're gonna take into account the interest rates
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They're gonna take into account if you would have kept the money and either a
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you know, got a worthless certificate of deposit, which you're just going backwards on
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Uh, if you could have invested in the stock market, I mean, there's all kinds of things
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Uh, and then, and then, um, remember that, that $350 is a moving target
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Uh, because either a, the fuel costs could go up or they could go down
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I mean, so right now, unfortunately, this winter, um, a lot of people are gonna be in a lot of pain because the fuel costs
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are going to go up to heat your home. It's horrible. Uh Right now inflation is just raging and energy prices are out of control
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Um, and, and I'm not, I'm not even gonna go there. Why, why they are
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I'm not necessarily an expert but I, but I'm old enough to know what's really in play here
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So that's the deal with energy savings. Don't be fooled by the salesperson into thinking that the next
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day you're gonna be saving a bunch of money and the final thing you have to put into the equation and this is hard to
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do. I mean, it's hard to a degree. How long are you gonna live in the house
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Well, guess what, the, if you go to the National Association of Realtors
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uh, and you look at averages, they, they do all these calculations a few years ago
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the average length of time a person stayed in one house was about eight or nine years
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All right. You know, in other words, um, a member of my family had lived in their home
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they had built a home. Gosh, back in the early eighties, it might have been
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might have been late seventies, built a little, uh, three bedroom home, lived in it for jeez
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a long time. 3040 years. But then just, um, just a year ago
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moved to a condo. All right. So you might get transferred. Um
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you, who knows what might happen? You, any number of things that's happening and you need to sell your home
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Well, if you're halfway through trying to get paid back on those windows you bought
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don't think for a minute that you're gonna get a penny for penny every penny you bought for those windows from the new buyer of
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your home. Yeah, I know housing prices are really going up right now and you can
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you, you made a lot of equity. Well, guess what else that you're gonna buy also went up in value
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So, you're really not that much ahead because that house that you were thinking about buying in southern California last year for 800,000
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Well, it's now 1.3 million. All right. So everything's going up. So
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don't, don't think you're sitting pretty just because you've made a lot of equity in your own home
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Um, just, you know, I was a real estate broker for 20 years back in Ohio
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So I know just a little bit about real estate, maybe just enough to be dangerous
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Ok. Um, uh, Lennon, we're not gonna, uh, just so, you know
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I'm not, it doesn't do any good to ask me any questions about, uh, our president or politics because I'm not gonna go there
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I'm not going to answer any questions, um, about those kind of things
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I'm not gonna go there in, in, in, in my live streams. It just uh everybody's too polarized right now
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especially here in America about politics and, and, and um it's like winner take all
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It's like the Game of Thrones. If, if you've not read the Game of Thrones book series
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I highly recommend you do. I'm just about three hours worth of reading
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finishing the la the fifth book in the series. It's absolutely fascinating
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So, anyway, um so don't bother asking any questions about politics, climate change
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Uh If you want to know about climate change, just go to my website. My, my college degree was in geology
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So I know a little bit about climate change and just go to ask the bill.com and type climate change in the search engine
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Get the answer to what um to, to, to your question. OK
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Uh If you have a question about energy payback, so let me know. All right. Uh oh well
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how's the house in uh Mount Mount Desert Island coming So we'll talk a little bit about that
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So that's my daughter's home. Will, is talking about, they started construction on it
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Uh, three years ago, actually, three years ago, last month is when they were cutting the trees on the lot and it's all finished
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Um, it took a lot longer to complete than it was supposed to
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Um, I did all of the plumbing and the radiant heating and the electric in the house with the help of my son-in-law
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You know, he, luckily he had a great schedule. He, my son in law, um
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you know, they lived up there, they lived in a rental house and
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um, he works on pacific time. All right. So he, he's able to work from home
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And, uh, so he, he would, his day at work would start at noon and he would work until like eight o'clock at night
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All right. So we would get up and we'd be on the road at seven o'clock in the morning or 630
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And he would work with me, you know, for four hours in the morning. And
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um, and then we would drive back to the house for lunch and then I would drive back alone back to the job site and
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work in the afternoon by myself. All right. So, anyway, the house came along great
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Uh, it's beautiful. Um, it was, uh, it was truly an experience
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Um, and the, I, I'm, I'm happy to say the, um, I don't know
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I, I know my daughter trusted me, but I don't think she really believed me about how quiet the plumbing would be
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We used cast iron. No, have cast iron for all of the uh
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drain pipes. And there are, there, there are a major stack that comes down
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You can actually see a photograph of, if you go to ask the builder.com and you type in cast iron
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uh, you'll see this really cool photograph that I took of. Um
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once again, when I get the ST software that I'm gonna learn how to use
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I'll be able to pull up a picture and show you. All right. I'm sorry, we can't do that today
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Uh But anyway, you'll see a photograph of this big stack. It's got, um, a three inch pipe that's going up to the
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um, hall bathroom and it's got a, uh, another stack that comes off of it
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It's a four inch pipe actually. And then the, it's a four by three Y and the one
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the one Y part of the wire goes up to a hall bath. Uh, the other one goes up and catches the master bath
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It's really amazing. Well, there's no insulation in this wall. All right
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this is right by the fireplace in the living room and when you go upstairs and flush both toilets at the same time and you
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and you tell everybody be quiet. Here's what it sounds like. I mean
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you hear nothing. I mean, it's amazing. So, um, I, actually, it's really interesting
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I think I may have talked about it last week briefly on the live stream
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But I had a woman from Washington DC who had bought a condo and she was just miserable because every 15 minutes she hears Niagara
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falls in her wall because she's in the lower unit and everybody above her that flushes the toilet is right in her wall and it's
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just horrible. And so she was asking me what if anything could be done. And I, I had good news for her
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I said, well, all you have to do is, um, open up the wall and
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and take out that section of the PV C and put in cast iron
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So I don't know what she's gonna do. Um, I wouldn't want to necessarily be the plumber on that job because even though you tell
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the people look, even though you tape the, the toilet covers down
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they lift them up and they still, I mean, it's, I, you can imagine what happens if you cut open a stack and you tell
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people don't flush the toilet, you know, if they flush it, bad things happen
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All right. So anyway, um, so anyway, if you got questions about anything with your home now is the time to ask
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just type it in the comments section, uh, the chat section and I'm happy to answer it
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Uh, it doesn't matter what, what question you ask. Just don't do what lemon's doing
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We're not talking politics here and we're not talking religion. We're not doing any of that
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Uh, you can go do that on other websites and other people that, that specialize in that stuff
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Um, ok. The, uh, I want to tell you just a really quick thing
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So, about 10 or 15 minutes before I went live, I kind of glance out the window here
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my windows right here and I see this white stuff in the air and I go
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well, that's crazy. There aren't any active volcanoes around here. You know
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that, that ash would be falling from the sky. And, um, it wasn't ash
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It was the first, uh, snow flurries of the season. So the old man's dandruff
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he must, he must have been scratched his head like this and some dandruff came out
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And, um, anyway, it's gonna start snowing here soon in New Hampshire
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So, but I've got great snow blowers and, uh, we can handle it
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Ok. Well, um, ok. Burn. Ok. Is it ok to burn some pine cones in my wood stove
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Um, well, you can do it. Um, it's gonna make a lot of creosote
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you know, all those soft woods. If you talk to any chimney sweep, you know
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they'll tell you that the soft woods are just horrible. You know, they
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they, um, they just, they, they cause a lot of problems in the inside of chimneys and and flu liner
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So you'll just be, um, you'll just be cleaning your chimney more often and if you don't keep up with it
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um, you could have a devastating chimney fire. So if you've never seen a chimney fire before
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I re, I highly recommend going to youtube and watch a couple of videos
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Uh, they're terrifying and they can completely burn your whole house down
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I mean, you're talking about a blowtorch, uh, that can happen. So you have to actually mentally get prepared as to how you would deal
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with a chimney fire. And um uh you know, you have to cut off the supply of oxygen to it
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So you got to figure out how am I going to do that? And there's also some products that you can throw into the fire
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that, that, that extinguish the chimney fire. So you might want to buy some of that just to have on hand
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Um ok. How cold is it here? Um in, in New Hampshire today
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Uh It was uh it, it maybe got to 44 °F. Um I'm not really good at converting that to Centigrade
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I would say since zero is 32. Um I'm gonna say four or five °C maybe just
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just a guess. Um But uh cold here, in other words, to me
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cold is single digits uh Fahrenheit, you know, or below zero. That's when it really gets cold
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So and, and we can get that kind of cold here in New Hampshire, it happens all the time
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So, um anyway, any kind of questions you have about your home now is the time to ask them
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Um I'm happy to answer them for you and um, try to save you some time
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try to save you some money. And I, I want to tell you, I, I'll share a little story while I'm waiting for the next
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question. One of you may not know this. So I'm, I've been a licensed master plumber uh
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since 1981 I've always liked doing plumbing. I'm a master carpenter as well
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Um So I always did all the carpentry and plumbing on my jobs. So anyway
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I, one of the things I always loved doing was drawing, uh these isometric three dimensional drawings that show all the drain pipes and the
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vent pipes. And you would have to draw one of these drawings to get a plumbing permit
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And the reason the plumbing department wants to see those drawings is because they want to make sure that you as the plumber or if
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it's you as a homeowner that are applying for the permit that you understand what size pipes have to run to
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each fixture. All right, because different size pipes by code have to go to different fixtures and then they want to understand that you
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you are totally crystal clear on how to vent each fixture. And what size vent pipes have to be used and same thing
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Um, you have to vent it a certain way and, and you have to use a certain size pipe and it's
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and if you're not a plumber, um, I don't even see how you could begin to
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to do one of these drawings the right way. So, I'm one of the few people in the United States that actually draw these things
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for people and it's kind of a neat little fun business and it's growing and II I
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I've really come a long way and I, I draw them on a computer. They're all in color
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All the different pipe sizes are color coded. They're beautiful drawings. You can actually go download a sample one for free if you want if
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you're in. So just go to shop dot Ask the builder.com. So shop dot Ask the builder.com you'll see on the left
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hand column, draw plumbing plans. I don't know, pick, pick any of the like two bedroom
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two bathroom home, four bathroom home. It doesn't matter because in the SKU there's a link to download a sample of
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of what the drawings look like. All right. So huh um Great
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Uh are most times in the made of wood? Yes. The uh I'll get back to the Plymouth
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So Lennon's asking our most times in the US made of wood. Yes, we almost frame
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frame all homes in the United States exclusively out of wood because we have
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we have so much lumber. Although the US government doesn't necessarily let us cut our own lumber
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But the timber companies uh like Weyerhauser, Georgia Pacific, uh some of these huge
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huge lumber companies, they own millions and millions of acres of land. They
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they can cut on their own land. We also get some imported lumber from Canada
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Uh But, but wood is the primary thing we use to build all of our floors
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our walls and our roofs. And I know you in England in the UK
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you guys ran out of wood a long time ago. So you build mostly with masonry
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All right. So anyway, one of the luxuries I get is I do these plumbing plans is people have to then send me their
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their floor plants and you know, the PDF copy of the floor plans because I need to see where the fixtures are
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what's in each bathroom, how they're located, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
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So I can draw the drawing accurately. Well, one of the, like the last two jobs I've drawn
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I'm scratching my head looking at these plants and I'm going this one that I drew
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it's a house that's gonna be built in Indiana. I go where in the world is the mechanical room
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I mean, where are they going to put the furnace? You know, I, I mean
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it was crazy that it, it, they didn't show it on the plan. II, I thought someone's gonna be in for a big surprise and
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then today I'm drawing this, this plumbing plan for a gentleman who's building a really nice uh three bathroom house
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It's kind of like a, almost like a log cabin, but it's not a log cabin out in Idaho
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And I'm looking at this floor plan and I go, where is the half bath
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It's basically, it's everything on one floor. There's like a master bedroom suite
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there's two bedrooms that share a full bathroom and, but there's no half bath where
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you know, like if you have guests come over now, they're gonna have to go into the bathroom of one of the bedrooms
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I mean, that's crazy. So, so especially what if I told you I was talking to somebody about it this morning
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I had, I, I also did AAA phone consult. You know, I do these phone consoles if you don't know that
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So in other words, if you get in trouble and you need to talk to me on the phone, I
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you can buy 15 minute chunks of time for me. All right. So I'm talking to this guy about it and I
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and I tell him I go, I'll never forget the second house that I bought
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It was built in the early 19 hundreds in Cincinnati, Ohio. Uh It did not have a first floor bathroom
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Uh That was very uncommon. In fact, it was a four, it was a six bedroom house, get this a six bedroom house
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There were four bedrooms on the second floor and there were two large rooms on the third floor and there was one bathroom in this
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house. All right, that was very common back then. All right, back in the early 19 hundreds
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So there was a closet on the first floor. Um, well, I'm gonna get with you in just a second
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Uh, there was a closet on the first floor right there by the kitchen
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It was a really perfectly located spot. It was right next to the stairwell that went down to the basement and the closet was no
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more than 3032 inches wide and no more than 4 ft deep
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All right. And part of it had a, a little bit of a slope ceiling
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All right. But it was tall enough that you could walk back into the closet and not hit your head
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So I was able to fit a toilet back, uh, you know, deep in the closet
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And, uh, then I was able to get a very small wall mounted
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uh, hand wash sink. So there was no vanity. Just a simple little
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I think the sink was only 12 inches out, maybe, maybe 16 inches wide
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I don't know, it was very small and it worked perfectly. It was wonderful
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And so in other words, the point is, are you telling me that the planner could not figure out a way to carve out a
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space 32 inches wide by 4 ft long to have a half bathroom
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All right. So I, I'm just stunned by all the mistakes I'm seeing on these plans is all I can tell you
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All right, remember if you got a question or comment. Now's the time to put it in. Let's go look at them
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Um. All right. Uh, Will's got a question. We had some snow flakes here in the Midcoast Maine a few hours ago
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but it's not sticking at 40 degrees. Yeah, it's gonna drop down. We know that. Um
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ok. How LV, teach me? How long was the plumbing trade program that you attended
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How long practicing trade before you took the license exam? How long did it take to become a master plumber
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Ok, great questions. Um, I did not go to a trade school
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Uh, I was all self taught, uh, back in my day, uh
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in Hamilton County, Cincinnati for you to be able to get a plumbing permit to pull a permit on a job
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All you had to do was post a $3000 bond and that $3000 bond for a year only costs $75
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Right. So, think about that. I a at age 24 which is when I pulled my first plumbing permit and I didn't know hardly anything
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about plumbing. I could have pulled a permit to pipe in a 50 ft
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I'm sorry, a 50 story skyscraper. They wouldn't have stopped me. I mean
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it, it, the job would be all messed up back then because I didn't know what I was doing
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But I'm just trying to tell you, um, you would be surprised in different parts of the United States
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It's not as hard to, to, to do now. Um, how long before prac
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so I started practicing the trade right away. I, I was putting in plumbing
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Yeah, I was doing small jobs and I was reading books about it, you know, that was back in the day before the internet
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So I would go to the library and get all these books, read all these, I can't remember how many books I read about plumbing
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but a lot. All right. And then you would just look as you
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as you rehabbed houses and you open up a wall, you would see how the old plumbers put it in and if you had any
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critical thinking skills whatsoever, you could figure it out and what the
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the biggest problem that most people have, the average person is. They don't understand the venting
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Uh, and, and, and they don't, and they, and they don't understand the importance of the venting because they didn't pay attention to physics in
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high school. All right. So, it's very complex. Um, you can make a lot of mistakes if you don't know what you're doing and your
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plumbing system will not work. Uh, so how long before I took the license exam
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Ok. Well, I, I became a master plumber in 1981. So I had only been practicing for about seven or eight years and it's a
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kind of a long story. But I had another master plumber friend who lived near me who saw my work
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knew I was a really good plumber and he happened to be friends
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very close friends. Like he was as close friends to the head of the Cincinnati Plumbing department as 19 is to 20
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All right. So he called up the, his buddy and said, hey
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this guy, you should let this guy take and sit for the exam and you're allowed to do that. If the
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if the head of the plumbing department, uh you know, get this mechanical engineers can be master plumbers and have never installed a pipe in
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their life. There are many, many mechanical engineers out there who are master plumbers and they've sat for the exam
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but they have never installed plumbing, right? So the code allows that
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So that was why I was allowed to sit for the exam in Cincinnati because even though I had not gone through
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the apprentice and Journeyman program in Cincinnati. So it's kind of a little loophole
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But um I passed the exam flying colors. In fact, the plumbing inspector called me two days after the exam and said that I had
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scored the highest on the venting diagram and it was a very
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very complex diagram you had to do. You had to vent all these fixtures. It's very complex
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I have to draw it for you. But um he said no one had ever gotten the
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as high a score as I did. So I'm, I don't mean to brag, but I just
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something I'd love to do, which is why I'm now drawing these plumbing isometric drawings
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So because I like doing it, it's really fun. It's easy. It's almost like diagramming sentences if you're old enough
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like me, you remember when you're into grade school, you had to diagram sentences to learn uh grammar and to learn how to form sentences
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and how, how it all works. All right. So, um anyway, uh so I hope that answers your question
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Um Yeah, it is interesting. It was interesting and I love doing it. Like I loved putting the plumbing in my daughter's home
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All right. Will, could I install radiant heat for an unheated upstairs bedroom
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It now has carpeting of plywood floor and should I upgrade to 200 amp
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Uh So the two separate questions, uh the answer is yes, you can install radiant heat for your unheated upstairs bedroom
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Um I, I mean, if you're gonna put it under the floor like I did in my daughter's house
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you're, you're gonna tear out the ceilings, which is insanity. All right
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So, so my, this, this actually kind of goes right back to what we talked about at the open of the live stream
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So when you start to think of all that money that she would spend to
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to install this radiant heating for the upstairs bedroom. You could go right now to a big box store and spend $80 and walk out
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with an electric little portable space heater that it looks just like the
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they're oil filled and they, they look just like an old fashioned radiator and let me tell you they were really well
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All right. So it's radiant heat. So, if, and, and remember you're
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you're gonna spend pretty close, you'd have to do the math to see
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What do you spend per kilowatt hour for electricity versus what you would spend for natural gas or however you're gonna heat the water for
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your radiant heat. I mean, you, you're, you're splitting hairs for, like
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just producing enough heat for this bedroom. All right. I mean, one heater
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one heater is probably gonna run her out of the bedroom or, you know
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uh, I don't know who I, I thought you maybe said your daughter. So I would just go get an $80 radiant heater and plug
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it in. All right. Um, you know, you gotta make sure that the electric on the wall is strong enough is
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is the right, uh, gauge wire. So you don't cause an electrical fire
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I've got columns on the website about that. Go read the, actually go
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go back to the website will and read, just type in dimmer switch into my website and wait till you see those two photos
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dimmer switch type that in, if that doesn't put your head on a swivel, nothing will
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All right. 200 amp service. Yeah, 200 amp service is really the standard here in the United States for electric service for home
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So, yes, it's a good idea to have it. Um, yeah. So you have one of those heaters now
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Ok. Well, if it's not doing the job then you need a second one, you know, I mean, so I'm just trying to tell you
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do the math. In other words, what are you gonna spend to put a radiant system in
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in, in this bed under this bedroom? I mean, are you gonna spend $2000 on materials
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Uh, 3000? I mean, do you have to buy a new boiler? Are you gonna buy a separate water heater to supply the hot water
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Um, you could be at two and $3000 before you know it
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Well, my goodness, you could buy another flipping $80 heater and, and you'll only spend an extra
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you couldn't spend an extra $50 a year in fuel costs using electricity versus using natural gas or propane to heat the hot water for
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the radiant system. See what I'm saying? In other words, you'll be so much money ahead and then we're not even talking about putting all
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the drywall back up and painting all the ceilings again. It's crazy. Right
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So, I just have to think it through. All right. Um, yeah
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those heaters do work extremely well. You bet they work. Well. Uh
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how's calculating paybacks going so far? It went really well. We covered it the 1st 15 minutes of the live stream
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I'm already done if you weren't here for that part of the live stream
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Once the live stream is done, Google processes it, and magic happens and louise you can
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you can come back and watch the, the live stream to see what I had to say
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I, I had these really fancy slides. It was, it was a lot of fun
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All right. So, um OK, Tim, uncle, uncle, I know I win
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I win. I know I love it. I love it. But it's true. You just
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you know, people get stuck in their head. I, I wanna do this man. This is the way to go. Well, you know what
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uh maybe it is the way to go if you have unlimited money and you don't care about mess and you just
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you, you want your house to be a laboratory and you, and you
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you just wanna tear it up. Uh Go ahead, you know, but always just think what is the goal
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What's the problem? I'm trying to solve all the problem you're trying to solve is the bedroom is cold
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Actually, the first thing you ought to do is whoever goes in that bedroom, just tell them to put more clothes on
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All right. Just wear more clothes. Uh, put an extra blanket on the bed at night
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Maybe just get an electric blanket if that's all you need on because most of the time probably nobody is in the bedroom
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You know, they either go to work or they're at school or they're downstairs watching TV
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Maybe you solve the problem with a stupid electric blanket, you know, for 49 bucks
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I mean, you know, so just solve the problem. All right. All right
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So, uh, don't make it harder than it has to be. Um
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lol. Exactly. Uh, all right. II, I have to tell you that
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um, the reason I'm doing these live streams is because, you know, 10 days ago my son
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you know, got me back into it. I, I tried to do it two years ago and it just wasn't
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there wasn't any traction. It wasn't, it wasn't that good. And that the
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and the technology that youtube had was really pretty clunky. And so my son told me
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he said the best part that is that you get to interact with your viewers and he's so right
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I, um, I, great time, uh, interacting with you and answering your questions
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It's a lot of fun. It's just like we're all, uh, it's just that you get to see me
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I can't see you and that's ok. It's almost like we're, we're just
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you know, at a, at a picnic and, and we're around a big table talking with one another
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It's really pretty, pretty cool. Um, sweater bed. Yes. Exactly. Sweater bed
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jacket comforter. Exactly. Just, you know, just when you have a problem
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um, no matter what the problem is, just stop, take a deep breath and try to list all of the solutions
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because there's generally more than one solution to a problem and, um
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instead of just going, oh, there's only one way to solve it. No, there's could be multiple ways and that's what the pros do
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They just sit back, yze it and then, uh, go with the, what makes the most sense as simple as that
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All right, if you uh have a question now is the time to ask it. Um
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anything about your home? I'll do my best to answer it and
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um, uh, we'll see if I can't save you some money and some time
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All right, uh, will, is back again. He's got some ice build up in the Anderson crank open kitchen windows when it gets below freezing
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of taping the outside of the window. No, that's not gonna help you. Uh That's not what the problem is
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All right. So you need to, will, you need to go back to ask the builder.com and you need to type condensation into my search
40:56
engine and you need to read all of my columns about condensation
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I could sit here and talk for an hour and there's no need for me to do that I want you to go back to
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the website and, and one of the big things you said is that you're in the kitchen
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All right. So I already know what's going on in the kitchen. Uh, you know, people are
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are cooking, they're boiling pots of water. They're, they're, you know, when you cook anything you release water vapor
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um, you might be running hot water in the sink. Um, and then you have to understand once again what I'm really finding out
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It's really kind of interesting and, and don't take this the wrong way. All right. Don't, I don't want you to take this the wrong
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way. II, I, I've discovered in all the years that I've done as the builder is that a lot of people did not pay attention
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in high school physics class. Right. They did not pay attention or they were sick or they skipped school
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I don't know what the reason is but a lot, you know
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the, the, those, uh, do you remember back when you were in school? Because I kind of remember this
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Um, you know, you would, you'd be grit, you'd be bo moaning and
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and you'd be going, ah, I don't understand why we have to learn this
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We're never gonna use this. We're, we're, we're never gonna, you know, and you don't have enough life experience and the teacher
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you know, depending on how old he or she is. They realize that
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Yeah, you are. Going to use this but, but sometimes they couldn't explain it to you how they couldn't give you examples
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Well, let me tell you just about everything in physics that, that was taught in physics
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in high school and college you use every day or you can use it to solve problems
42:30
All right. So, um and condensation is a great example. So, condensation is a fantastic example
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So will, yeah. Well, you know, well, yeah, it's not so much
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too much humidity, but so will. So I'm just gonna, this is a rhetorical question
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So you get a cold can of soda or a cold can of beer or a bottle of beer out of the refrigerator in the
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summertime, you go out onto your deck, you sit under an umbrella
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you set the can or the bottle on the table and you look out, you're chatting with your friends and three minutes later the outside
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of the bottle is covered with water. All right. What's going on
43:08
Why is that happening? All right. What, you know, it's not cold outside
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it's not cold outside, dude. It's 90 degrees. All right. So, um that's what's happening to your kitchen windows
43:19
So, um, all right. Algebra was a mystery to me. Um Yes
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Uh uh Yeah, I know, I know somebody else that suffered an algebra
43:31
You know what? I just barely made it, I mean, barely by the skin of my teeth
43:36
Um But what I've discovered about mathematics in school was. Um so you have to understand that mathematics is just
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a language. It's like learning French or German or Latin. Um And if I I your brain has to work a completely different way to
43:54
understand those mathematical formulas and some teachers are really good at it
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Uh I had a, a college professor who was just amazing and
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and then uh my senior year, this is a true story. This is gonna be hard for you to
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So I needed to take certain math courses to graduate with my geology degree
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And one of them was calculus in my senior year, my last quarter of my senior year
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So think about this spring quarter, you're this close to being done with all of your education and
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and I had to take this class and the only time I could take the class because of conflicts with other ones was
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it was a calculus class. Monday, Wednesday, Friday from four in the afternoon until five o'clock
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Think about this, a senior in college on a Friday afternoon or really any afternoon you wanted to be at school
44:52
Are you kidding me? But this, this grad student was the teacher
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And by the second class, I love this guy. I mean, he
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it's like he had this gift of being able to explain calculus
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which is very complex if you know, if you a lot of people struggle with calculus
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But I'm telling you what I got an a in the course. And I was the, I mean
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I never skipped a class. I, I actually look forward to going to this calculus class
45:20
All right. It's crazy as it sounds. And so, and by Friday
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um, I mean, on Monday there would maybe be 15 people in the classroom on Friday afternoons there were like
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two or three of us. So, uh, it was just, you know
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no one wanted to be in school on a Friday afternoon. All right. So, um
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I've got so many stories. Oh, my gosh, don't get me started on Skyline chili
45:45
I'm sure one day we're gonna talk about that. Um, yeah, exactly
45:49
Algebra is an adult I actually was thinking about. So what I do
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um, I'm kind of gonna go find a little side tangent here
45:57
So, um, let me, I'll actually give you a demonstration although you can't see it
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Um, so some people maybe do algebra, you know, as you get older to k
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kind of keep your brain active. You might do problems, solve problems. Um
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I decided about four or five years ago to, um, you know
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to, um, to learn Morse Code, which is another language. So, um
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so let me, um, I'm gonna send, um, how we'll do, will
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we'll do will's name. So will, if you're still here, I'm gonna do your name in Morse Code and anybody who wants their name done
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in Morse Code just type it right now. We'll have a little fun
46:38
All right. So, what a crazy thing to do on a live stream. So, here's, here's Will Smith's name and Morse code
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Let me get this out of the way. I'm gonna turn it up a little louder so you can hear it
46:56
So, that's Will Smith. All right. So Lashanda West. Are you kidding me
47:02
All right. That's, that's awesome. All right. So let's do, let's do that name. So that's pretty long
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So, hang on, I'll get everybody. So I'm hoping, let me know
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Can you hear that, by the way? Are you able to hear what I'm doing? Can somebody type? Yes or no
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Can somebody type? Yes or no? Can you hear this? Ok, great
47:21
All right, good. All right. So here is, uh, Lashonda. So we'll do Lashonda first and then I'll stop
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That's Lashonda. Here's the, here's West. All right. So here's Andrew. So
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uh, pretty much fun, huh? So that's, that's what I do to kind of keep my, um, brain active because you have to
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you know, you have to, um, you know, you have to interpret it
47:57
All right. So, anyway, um, that's probably enough for today. I don't see any more questions about houses
48:04
Uh, oh, here we go. Will I know the train is not running. Uh, the train stopped running
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He's, will, is talking about the scenic train here in New Hampshire
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um, down in MEREDITH and it probably ran. Um, oh, they stopped around about
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the middle of October because they have all the leaf, we call them leaf keepers. All the tourists come up here to see all the
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vibrant, beautiful trees. And um you know, once we, we had a late season
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I mean, the, the trees had a lot of color all the way through the end of October
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And um so, but, but they shut the train down, 2nd, 3rd week of October
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It, it was, it was over with. So, um, uh, and same thing with the Fall foliage trains
48:47
they have a, that operates on the weekends for about five weekends that
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uh, it's a very, it's, I think it's 75 $80 a ticket, but it's about a six hour train ride
48:58
Well, let's see, not six hours 11, it leaves at 11, uh
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gets back at four. So it's a five hour train ride. The train leaves MEREDITH
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New Hampshire. It goes all the way up to Plymouth, New Hampshire. You get off the train in Plymouth
49:10
you eat lunch at the Common Man restaurant. Uh, then the train comes back
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it stops in Ashland because there's a historic restored train station in Ashland
49:20
And I would play the telegrapher there. I would dress up in a costume
49:24
I mean, in real gear, you know, socks, sleeve socks, you know
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bow tie, the visor and I'd be sending Morse code, you know
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in the train station, sitting at the telegrapher's desk, a super honor So that was a five hour train ride
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And, um, so that one ended, um, the, the week, not Halloween
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the weekend before Halloween. So, anyway, fun times, fun times on the train
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I kind of miss it. Um, how long Andrew's got a question
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Uh, it's pretty great. How long did it take to learn Morse code? So, that's a really great question
49:57
Um, you can learn Morse code, uh, in, you can become somewhat proficient in just
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two months. Uh You, you could easily be at 13 words a minute in two months
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If you stick, if you just put a half an hour in a day, you can go online
50:15
There's a, there's a website called CW. So C, the letter C
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the letter W and that stands for continuous wave because that's what Morris is
50:25
So, um I don't have my straight key set set up if I had
50:30
So, so in other words, when you send the, the, the my radio is actually putting in all the dashes
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listen to this. So it's putting in those brakes. Da da, da
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da, da. So if you, if, if the radio didn't do that, if I just held down my straight key
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it would sound like this like da uh So that's a continuous wave
50:54
All right. So when you interrupt the continuous wave, uh in a
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in a particular way, you can create letters. All right. So for example
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like the letter C is da da da so long, short, long
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short. So anyway, go to CW academy.com, CW, academy.com. That's probably the best way to learn Morse Code
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quickly. All right. So there are quite a few different websites out there. Here's the one thing you do not want to do
51:24
do not, do not learn at the boy scout way. So, the boy scout way is where they actually put on paper
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you know, dot dash and then you go, that's the letter A no
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that do not that do not ever do that. So Morse Code is auditory
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You don't, in other words, blind people can do Morse Code. All right
51:43
Um When you learn to talk as a child, your mom and dad did not do this
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Here's what they didn't do. I'm having fun here. All right. I know this
51:54
What, what a crazy way to do live streaming. Here's what they didn't do. They didn't do this
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They didn't hold up a piece of paper that said cat, cat, cat and they pointed to the cat on the floor
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They did not do that. They just pointed to the cat and said that's a cat. And then after you hear enough times you go
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cat. Oh, the cat's that furry thing with four legs and a tail
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All right. So that's how you learn Morris. You just listen to it
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All right. And there's a very specific way uh, to learn Morris
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Um You don't wanna learn it slow, you actually wanna learn it at this speed
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You want to learn the letters at the speed. Like here's, here's the letter A, I'll do
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I'll do the first part of the alphabet. Here's a, here's B, here's C
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here's D, here's E, here's F, here's G, here's ABC, DFGH. Here's
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H, here's, I, here's J so you get the point in other words
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they're all different. All right. So you just want to learn by hearing
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close your eyes and listen, just like when people talk because you can actually close your eyes when someone's talking to you and you completely
53:04
understand what they're saying. All right, Morris is the same way. All right, I could talk about it for hours
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I love it. Uh Go to my, go to my, I, I have a radio blog
53:14
I've never talked about it here. Just go to my blog and read all my stories. W so the letter W here
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actually here. It's right here. So go here. W three A tb.com
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W three A tb.com hundreds and hundreds of stories there about Morse Code about outdoor radio
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You'll have a blast at that website. Um All right. I hope you're still having fun
53:41
We've got a lot. We got quite a few people here. I'd like to have more. So that's
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you could help me. By the way, if you can spread the word about the live stream
53:48
you know, through any of your social media, it sure would help so do your
53:52
do me a favor and, you know, I'm trying to help you. So, try to reciprocate and try to help me by getting the word
53:58
out there about this live stream. All right. Uh, it's impressive. Yeah
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it is impressive. It's, it's fun. It's fun to be doing radio outside and people walk up to you and go
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What, what's that? Is that Morse Code? Yes, it is. I didn't know people still did it
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Yeah. Millions of us still do it. All right. It's very popular
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There's millions and millions of people around the world doing Morse Code. Um
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actually I could, um, if you're interested II I, this is trying to come out of that
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that band is dead. I was trying to find uh uh somebody doing it
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Here we go. Yeah, that's what you're doing digital. So that's, oh
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by the way. So with respect to Ham Radio, I'll just say this very quickly. Um You can do ham radio talking in a microphone
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just like I'm talking here. You can do Morse Code. You can also do digital
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So if you're, if you love computers look into digital ham radio
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just type that into Google. Oh my gosh. It's, you can just
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you can just talk to people using your computer. It's very cool. All right. So
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um uh, no, I, I never got to do the Polar Express
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Uh, they're running the Polar Express but I, I didn't, I never did it, because it
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that train goes out of Lincoln and it's an hour drive from my house to get up to Lincoln
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And it's like they pay so little. It just, it's stupid. It's like
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you know, it wasn't worth my time to do the Polar Express. Um
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how deep is the frost line in New Hampshire? 42 inches? Well, it depends
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So the southern part of the state down near Massachusetts, probably 36 inches
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Uh, you go up to Pittsburgh, which is up near Canada, uh
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close to 5 ft. All right. It gets really cold up, up at the upper part of the state and it stays cold
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so probably 5 ft up there. So it, it just depends where you're at
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Um, you'll check it out. Never knew how it worked. Thanks for the tips
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You're a good teacher. Thank you, Andrew. Um, thank you. I had a lot of people tell me that
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Um, uh, and you might, if everything goes well, like I think it's gonna go
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I can't tell you anymore. I know. I'm teasing you. Uh, you might see a lot of really cool teaching stuff coming up
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Um, really cool stuff. So, anyway, uh, I'm gonna pack it in
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We've been on for almost an hour. This is the longest live stream I've done so far
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56 minutes. So I want to thank you for being here today and thanks for your great questions
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Uh, really enjoy it. Really enjoy. Uh You know, you, you, you might be one of the regulars and I really
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uh I'm, I'm building this relationship with you. So, thanks so much and thanks for your patience
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I'm, I know I'm not the best at this. Uh I'm getting, I'm trying to get better
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I make mistakes. Um I'm human blah, blah, blah. But uh if as long as you're patient with me
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uh we're, we're gonna have a lot of fun together. Um Yes. So you're
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you're very Andrew. You're, and well, very welcome. So I'm gonna pack it in
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uh, go get something to drink. I'm a little dry. I should have had
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uh uh don't worry about the politics. Lennon. I, it's ok. I mean
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I'm happy to talk with you privately about it. I'm just not gonna do it in an open forum here
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I'm not gonna, not gonna go there. It's because it's too, here in the United States
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I don't know how it is in the UK with you, but here in the United States right now
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uh it's really bad. I mean, I, all I'm gonna say is that uh many people here in the United States are at war
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It's, it's a winner. Take all mentality. It's horrible. It's horrible. I don't like it
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I don't like what's going on on a personal level and, and as soon as you try to talk to somebody then they get angry
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I mean, it's like you start fighting it's like that's not, that's, I mean
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that's why our parents told us a long time ago. Don't talk about politics or religion
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So, they're right. Um, anyway, so, but if you want to talk about it privately
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um, we can have a private conversation about it. Ok. Thanks so much for tuning in
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I really appreciate you being here and I will be back here tomorrow
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It's just gonna be an open mic day, Ask anything. So get your questions ready and do me a favor and try to get the
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word out to your friends. Uh You know what if you're using Facebook
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um share the link. I mean, you know how to do that
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like share the link on Facebook. Uh you know, once we go live so that your friends see it
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maybe they'll join in. Um just do whatever you can to help me get more traction on this live stream
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I mean, wouldn't it be cool? I don't know about you. I, I can see on my screen
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I don't know if you can see it but I can see how many people are active and watching
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So I would, I can't wait to the day. We get to 100. Then I can't wait till the day we get to 500
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Then I can't wait to the day we get to 1000. So, but I need your help doing it
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So please just spread the word as best you can. Um All right
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you're getting to the stage where I don't care. I know. I, so just
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you know, this is the last thing I'll say about the whole politics thing. So I
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I've discovered it's a, it's kind of a long story. Maybe I'll, I'll do
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uh I'll talk about this on another live stream, but I discovered about five years ago how to really be happy
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All right. And it's kind of a long story how it happened. And uh it was actually taught to me indirectly by my Morse code
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mentor here in New Hampshire. And anyway, the bottom line to happiness is anything that's negative in your
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day. I don't care what it is. You have to actively turn away from it and push it out of your life
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All right. And, and so like for me, like Facebook, like if you
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you know, I was, I don't want to say I was a Facebook addict, but I checked in every morning and I would look at
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posts from some of my friends that would make my blood boil. Well, that's no way to start the day
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I mean, that's crazy. I'm seriously, it's like your blood pressure rising in the morning
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So just stop using Facebook. So that's what I did. Um I would
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I, I would go to some meetings. I was actually president of the local Ham radio club and I would go to the meeting happy
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and I would come home angry like it. So, so I resigned and I stopped going to meetings
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So in other words, I started actively pushing like over the cliff
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Anything that made me unhappy, I pushed it out of my life
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And dude, I have never been happier in my life. I'm just telling you
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So it's really that simple to get the happiness, right? Just that's all you gotta do
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All right, I will be back here tomorrow. The good Lord willing
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As long as I wake up in the morning. Right. You too. So, thanks so much for tuning in
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I'll be back here tomorrow, four o'clock Eastern. Uh We'll have some fun again and thanks again
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once again, do whatever you can to try to spread the word about the live stream
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I would really, really appreciate it. Thanks so very much. Um Yeah
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New retard. Yeah, build all the Yep. Oh, so go uh will go to my website
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read my column about my two days on the US S George Washington and I flew for an hour with the number seven Blue Angels
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pilot. So type in aircraft carrier in my search engine, type in blue angels
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Read those stories. Go Navy. Uh And I just um just a month ago I was on the US S New Jersey uh for about
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three hours down in Camden, New Jersey. Wow, that was amazing. So
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um Twitter. Yeah. Uh no, I'm not doing Twitter. Not doing that. No
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no, no, no, no. No, no Twitter, no Facebook. Um Yeah, good. Well, type in the blue
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type in blue angels and read the story about me. Uh up there with the number seven pilot
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Uh, you can actually see right above my head. That's the photo they gave me
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you can't see the whole thing, but that's I maybe tip up my thing. So that's the uh uh photo
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the commemorative photo they gave me uh with all of the people who were on the team
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Uh, the, the day that I flew. So, uh, it kicked my butt
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Uh, if you've never been in an fa 18, I think that we pulled them
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It's in the story. I, I think the maximum GS we pulled were 7.2
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They're not, they're told by the maintenance people they're not allowed to pull more than eight G's
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There's a, there's a meter in the plane. If the plane pulls, it keeps track of the
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the GS, it, it, it, it goes through and if it goes over eight
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the pilots get in big trouble because they then have to kind of inspect the plane for damage
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It's very costly. It takes a lot of time. So we made it to 7.2 and it
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I, I think I passed out seven or eight times. I don't know. Just, it's horrible
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It's horrible. Uh All right. So you satisfied similar to the Navy
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Ok. Good for you. Thank you for your service by the way I really appreciate it. Go read. If you haven't read the story about
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my dad in World War Two, it's on the website. Just type in Melvin Melvin
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He got the, my dad got the bronze star, so I'm pretty proud of him. Um All right
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Good for you, Lennon. Uh USA US curs in the Mediterranean. Good for you
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Thanks for your service too if you're in the service. Um uh very
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very. Um I have so much such respect for urban and service. I
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my draft number in, in high school uh was 127 and they drafted to 125
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Um If you ever watched the movie Saving Private Ryan, that's kind of who I was another
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I was the sole surviving son in my family. So had I been drafted
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uh I, they were supposed to not put me in a um at the front lines or in an active situation
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Uh because if I got killed, then the family name would die
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So anyway, um thanks everybody. Uh We could talk forever, couldn't we
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So retired corporal us. Army? Good for you. Army. Awesome. Um I had so many great veterans
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I have nothing but respect for all the veterans. Thank you so much for
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you know, I mean, it's why I'm allowed to do this live stream. All right
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Isn't that crazy? Do you realize there are some many people across the world
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They can't do what I'm doing and what you're doing. They could never type those comments and it's all because of the people like you
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who sacrificed and, and, and serve time in the military. I, I'll forever be indebted to you
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So, thanks very much. Ok, I'll be back tomorrow. I had a great time
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Uh Good night to you guys and yeah, good night, Lennon. Um, very late there
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My goodness, very late in the UK. So, um thanks so much for tuning in today
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Hour and four minutes. It's a record. I really appreciate it. Once again
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do everything you can to spread the word about the live stream. I'll be here tomorrow. Bye bye
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