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Bathroom Remodeling

By Tim Carter
©1993-2008 Tim Carter
Summary: Bathroom remodeling ideas and projects can be minor or major tasks. Some bath remodel jobs can be over in two days, while others can last for weeks. Bathroom design, especially ideas for remodeling a small bathroom, is a critical element to think of before you start the job. Even a bathroom vanity must be carefully sized to ensure it will work well, and provide enough storage space.

 

DEAR TIM: A bathroom remodeling project is at the top of my list for things to be done in a home I just purchased. I would like to change the layout of the plumbing fixtures. Is this possible, or am I forced to stay with the current layout? I plan to install granite wall tiles and flooring. How long will I be without a bathroom? Is there a way to speed up the remodeling process? Wendy D., Norcross, GA

DEAR WENDY: Bathroom remodeling is a popular project for people who buy existing homes. I think one of the reasons rests in the fact that people want to pamper themselves, and feel very comfortable while they are concentrating on personal hygiene. Remodeling bathrooms also makes good financial sense. Installing high-quality products in a bathroom will produce a handsome return on investment as buyers of homes desire well-appointed bathrooms that sport natural stone, gleaming tile, decorative faucets and sleek plumbing fixtures.

You can almost always change the layout of plumbing fixtures within a bathroom. Often the biggest obstacle is the doorway into the bathroom. If you are able to relocate the doorway or even move it slightly left or right from its current position, your new floor plan options increase dramatically. There are many highly-trained bathroom designers that can help you explore all of your possibilities.

This bathroom has been stripped to the studs. Plumbing pipes must be moved and new electric wires installed because the sink and tub are being relocated within the room. PHOTO CREDIT: Tim Carter
Once you determine that it is possible from the design perspective to move the fixtures, you then need to study the physical and building code barriers that hinder the movement of plumbing drain and water supply lines. The plumbing code is very strict, and both the drainage and venting pipes must be installed so your plumbing system meets minimum code requirements.

There are structural issues to address and the building code speaks to these important structural challenges. Within the text of the building code you will discover very strict guidelines with respect to notching, drilling, boring through and altering wooden floor joists. If your bathroom is built on top of a wooden floor system, you must pay very close attention to these code issues. If your bathroom is built on a concrete slab that rests directly on soil, these issues do not apply as you can remove the slab and place piping wherever you like.

If you are able to move your plumbing fixtures to the places you desire, this tells me that your bathroom remodeling job is one that requires the most time and resources. Since every job is different, you might expect the job to breakdown in this fashion:

  • Demolition - Two Days
  • Rough Carpentry Modifications - One Day
  • Rough Plumbing - Two Days
  • Electrical Work - One Day
  • Insulation and Hang Drywall - One Day
  • Finish Drywall - Two Days
  • Install Granite on Walls and Floors and Grout - Three Days
  • Install Cabinets, Tops, Toilet, Faucet - Two Days
  • Painting and Wallpapering - Two Days
  • Miscellaneous Contingency - Two Days

The above schedule shows your bathroom may be out of service for about 18 work days. The schedule can be significantly reduced if you hire a multi-talented individual or company that can multi-task and work ten-hour days. You can shave a day or two off the drywall phase if you use rapid-setting joint compound, and tape the drywall seams moments after the drywall is fastened to the walls and ceilings.

The key to getting your new bathroom completed as fast as possible is to stage all of the materials at your home before the job starts. Make sure every item is free of defects, the right size and you have every single piece of material you need. The only challenge at that point will be the labor to install the materials and fixtures, and getting timely building inspections.

Before hiring a contractor to remodel a bathroom, be sure to discuss all of the temporary arrangements so you can still live in your home as the remodeling work progresses. It is not hard to set up temporary showers in basements or garages. I know as I have done it for customers.

The biggest concern is always toilet facilities, as some smaller homes only have one toilet in the entire house. If this is the case at your home, you may have to rely on a portable toilet that sits outside. Be sure your local zoning codes allow this before you order one to be delivered.

Make sure that you know how to operate the primary water shut-off valve in your home and that it works. Accidents happen and a leak may develop in a water supply line at the end of a work day. You need to monitor the water supply lines after modifications have been made to ensure they are leakproof. If you see a leak, you must shut off the water immediately.

 






Comments

Frustrated by Furnace Vent
28 Mar 2008, 13:06
We are doing a master bathroom remodel. We have ripped everything out – we are down to studs and subfloor. The “before” version of the bathroom had a dropped ceiling over the shower and vanity area. We didn’t like the dropped ceiling and our plan for the renovation had the ceiling at the usual 8’ height. After tearing out everything, we found that the reason for the dropped ceiling was that the “vent stack” for the gas furnace and water heater (combined into one stack) runs up the side wall of the bathroom (shower area), then just before it hits the top of the wall, it “elbows” its way into the shower area, then continues vertically up through the roof. The reason for the diverting into the shower area is because there is the horizontal component of a roof truss right above the wall. This is the old-fashioned double wall vent pipe so it is like 8" in diameter or something.

I am devastated. We can’t think of anything to do to get this stack out of the way of the shower area, other than to rip out the old (21 years old) gas furnace and replace them with high-efficiency models that use PVC vent out through a side wall of the house. I just don't know if I want to spend that much more money.

Any ideas? I could send a picture of the problem.
AsktheBuilder
29 Mar 2008, 16:42
Frustrated,
What happens if we elbow the other direction???? What is in that room? Perhaps a decorative soffit or tray ceiling could be created in that space to mask the bump out.

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