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Cellulose vs. Fiberglass

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©1993-2012 Tim Carter

        
Summary: Cellulose vs. fiberglass insulation -- which is the best choice? Fiberglass has caused some health concerns. Cellulose insulation requires due care, as cellulose insulation and electrical wiring can produce intense heat, which can cause fire. Both fiberglass insulation and cellulose will settle when blown in, and R value is affected.

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Be sure to read the special Author's Note at the end of this column. It provides updated information on this topic.

DEAR TIM: I would like to upgrade my attic insulation. However, I understand that fiberglass insulation is now considered a suspected carcinogen. Cellulose insulation, I've been told, possibly is a fire hazard. Can you help with this dilemma? Also, are there any factors that affect the R-values of each material? C.T.

DEAR C. T.: The information you heard about concerning fiberglass being a suspected carcinogen is correct. In July of 1994, the federal government labeled fiberglass as a substance that quite possibly could be a carcinogen. However, the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services, in a letter to Congress, exclaimed that they felt that fiberglass does not pose a threat to persons in their daily lives.

The risk appears to be centered around the fact that when installing either blown or batt type fiberglass, small glass fibers become airborne. These fibers can then be inhaled into your lungs. This can in fact happen. Years ago, as an uninformed rookie, I installed fiberglass without using a facial mask. After working with the material for several hours, I could feel the fiberglass in my throat.

However, once installed, fiberglass is almost always covered with some material. Or, it is in an attic space where it can not be easily disturbed. This is why it does not pose a serious health threat to the average person.

Fiberglass manufacturers have responded to this concern. You can now purchase fiberglass batt insulation that has a combination plastic and kraft paper covering. The back side usually has small perforations in the plastic to prevent the buildup of water vapor within the insulation.

Cellulose insulation is made primarily from recycled newspaper. Yes, newspaper is very flammable. However, cellulose insulation is treated with either sodium borate, boric acid, or ammonium sulfate. These chemicals, which have been deemed safe for humans, make cellulose insulation fire retardant. These chemicals also repel rodents, insects, and mold.

However, I have a concern about quality control when the chemicals are applied to the ground up paper. What happens if the chemicals are not mixed correctly? What happens if not enough chemical is applied? Is it possible for there to be a malfunction at the factory and you receive a bad batch? How can you test for yourself that enough chemicals have been applied?

These chemicals apparently retain their ability to retard fires in the hot temperatures found in many attics. However, there have been instances when cellulose has indirectly caused a fire. This usually happens when either type insulation is installed in direct contact with an older style recessed lighting fixture. The insulation traps the heat created by the light bulb. This, in turn, causes the lighting fixture to overheat. Some modern recessed fixtures have thermostats within the fixture that turn the light off if it begins to overheat.

Settling of blown insulation can affect its long term R-value. R-value is the term used to measure the flow of heat through an object or material. A higher number indicates that the object or material has a higher insulating capability.

Most blown-in fiberglass and cellulose insulations settle, or compact, after installation. Cellulose seems to settle more than fiberglass. Some fiberglass manufacturers have developed newer loose fill fiberglass that evidently does not settle. Once it has settled, fiberglass has an R-value of 2.1 - 2.7 per inch, while cellulose has an R-value of approximately 3.0 per inch.

Loose fill blown fiberglass insulation has another slight problem. As the temperature difference between the living space and attic increases, the R-value of blown fiberglass diminishes. In extreme situations, such as the upper Midwest, this reduction in R-value approaches 50 percent.

This phenomena seems to occur as a result of thermal convection. The trapped air molecules in the insulation are pulled up through the insulation into the colder attic air. This problem has been successfully solved by installing fiberglass batt insulation over the top of loose fill or blown insulation.

The bottom line is that cellulose can burn, but fiberglass will not support combustion. Fiberglass may melt in an extreme fire, but will not add to the fire load. Choose your insulation wisely.

Author's Note:

Routinely I am blessed to hear from professionals and industry experts who share in-depth and updated information about a topic. You'll absolutely want to read the letter I received from the President of NAIMA (North American Insulation Manufacturers Association). It really helps clarify some of the points I just touched on in this column.

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I received this very interesting email from E. G. who is a remodeling contractor. He related to me a frightening incident that happened on one of his jobs in 1997, in Champaign, Illinois:

"I just read your article comparing the virtues and vices of Fiberglass vs. Cellulose Insulation. Let me share with you an anecdote from my own personal experience.

A few years ago, I was remodeling a room in a client's home -- moving a wall, adding a skylight, stuff like that. I finished mudding the drywall about noon and headed home for the day. Two hours later, I got a call from the homeowner, telling me that the job would be delayed for awhile.

After I left, the electrician doing some work in the attic had set his trouble light down in the cellulose insulation. He then went down to his truck for a bite of lunch.

I'm sure you can tell where this is going: the "fire-retardant" cellulose insulation caught fire, and by the time the fire trucks arrived, a big hole was burned in the roof, and my lovely new work was ruined.

You say in your article that the fire hazard of cellulose insulation has been magnified. Perhaps it has. But having seen it with my own eyes, I can't trust the ground up newspaper insulation any more. For my money, it's fiberglass all the way. I've never heard of it catching fire."

Eric Gentry



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Paul
25 Nov 2007, 00:36
Oddly enough, I'm from the Champaign, Il. area as well. In my opinion, and several independant studies as well, If you have a high enough borate concentration in your cellulose insulation, it will be extremely fire retardant. Furthermore, case studies have shown that a house WITHOUT insulation will not burn as fast as a home with fiberglass insulation, mainly due to the paper backing of the batts. Not only can cellulose insulation provide you with a monolithic coverage to stop convection, but it also (case studies have proven) is better to have in your attic in case of fire. Insulation fires are so rare at any point. Another thing to point out is that fiberglass insulation, installed by a professional, still is not the R-value listed on the batt. The study done at the Colorado University (independant testing) shows that a perfectly installed fiberglass batt of 19R typically has an R rating of on 13 when installed CORRECTLY.
vinny
26 Nov 2007, 16:08
cellulose
Janine
29 Nov 2007, 10:46
Interesting to hear all the stories, but from a personal experience, I can tell you the right Cellulose will not, and can not burn. We are a cellulose installer, also using fiberglass for our basement work, we stored all of our materials in a large barn. The barn was set on fire by some kid smoking and went up in 20 minutes. So, it was a large, very hot burn that could be seen over 60 miles away. ALL of the fiberglass was completely gone! Paper, fibers, everything. The piles of cellulose were still in tacked, other than the plastic bags burning on the outside, the firefighters kept asking us what it was because they couldn't believe it hadn't burned. When we went back a few days later to assess the damage - some of the plastic on the bags inside the pile were still in tact. So, not only proof of fire retardent, but also a GREAT insulation!!
ATB
29 Nov 2007, 14:22
Janine,
Thanks for the great story!
Richard
30 Nov 2007, 14:55
Dear Tim,

I was wondering what your opinion is on Thermatech Insulation. On their website they compare themselves to both cellulose and fiberglass. I have price quotes on Cellulose and the Thermatech. Cellulose is much cheaper but from what I am reading, the Thermatech is a much better product, but who knows who writes this stuff.

Any thoughts?

thanks, RT
ATB
30 Nov 2007, 19:10
Sorry! I have not tested it. Do extensive searching for both good and bad stories about it.
Bill Berg
04 Dec 2007, 16:37
I have seen a video about Cellulose insulation at the home improvment store. I also saw a demo. The cellulose didn't burn when the guy put a blow torch on it. He actually had it in his hand. The video is on their web site. It is at http://www.greenfiber.com/
It is called the big burn video. It will open some eyes about insulation and fire.

Susan
29 Dec 2007, 13:16
I have a water line that runs from the kitchen sink along an external wall (inside concrete slab) about 8 feet to a corner, where the line comes up into the side wall and feeds an external faucet. The line then goes back down along the side wall underneath an external doorway to feed the refrigerator line. Both the refrigerator water and the external faucet freeze at low temps (<20F). We have opened up the area where the line feeds the external faucet and reinsulated w/fiberglass batting and it seems to have helped but not totally solved the problem. Can heat tape be used in conjunction with blown cellulose insulation? I'm thinking that this may fix it...
AsktheBuilder
29 Dec 2007, 15:57
Susan,
My personal thoughts on heat tape are that it should be outlawed. I have seen many locations where it has ignited. Figure out a way to get this pipe out of the wall to the refrigerator. As for the hose bib, it needs to be piped with a shut off valve and a boiler drain on the bib side of this valve so that the bib can be shut down and drained for the winter.
GARY S
03 Jan 2008, 21:29
I can tell you for certainty that a house blown with the correct cellulose insulation will actually slow fire down. Studies have show that it has a fire retarding effect and can slow the fire down considerably for up to 2 hours in some cases. As far as settling is concerned,the right cellulose goes through a 100 year shaker test and the shrinking is minimal. Cellulose actually can have the r value go up when the weather gets colder. Also great for keeping away bugs and rodents. They eat the cellulose and they die. We could eat it and not die-we burp. Does a bug burp-nope!

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