Copper Water Pipe Corrosion - Aggressive Water
Summary: Copper pipes can corrode due to aggressive
water, chemicals and poor workmanship by your plumber. The plumber may leave
excess flux on pipes and pipe fittings.
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DEAR TIM: I'm getting ready to build a new home. I am deeply concerned about my drinking water lines. I have heard from some friends in different parts of the country that copper water lines can corrode from aggressive water. Is this possible? What is aggressive water? My parents had copper water lines that never were a problem. Is there an alternative pipe I can use? A.N.
DEAR A. N.: Aggressive water is drinking water that can cause corrosion. It is a real and growing problem in many parts of the country. Leaks are developing in new homes that are less than 2 years old in some cases. These leaks can cause high water bills and structural damage. Homeowners or municipal water systems that obtain their water from wells are susceptible. Rarely, does surface water (that obtained from rivers, lakes, etc.) become aggressive.
The causes and mechanisms that are responsible for the corrosion are not always the same. Water that is slightly acidic is sometimes to blame. High levels of dissolved minerals and carbon dioxide also can cause problems. High levels of chloride or sulfate can be serious.
Believe it or not, these chemists try to adjust the acidity and hardness of the water so that it actually coats the inside of your pipes with a thin scale of calcium carbonate. This scale can protect copper pipes from corrosion by insulating' the copper from the aggressive water. This may be the reason why the pipes in your parents house are not suffering from corrosion. New copper is very susceptible to corrosion, as the protective scale has yet to form.
Water chemistry can change. Those parts of the country that are experiencing growth may find out that their municipal water works are either drilling new wells, or sinking existing wells deeper. In either case, aggressive water may be mixed or injected into a previously non-corrosive water system.
For this reason, you may wish to consider plumbing piping which is not affected by aggressive water. CPVC plastic piping is a good choice. This piping has been used by the plumbing industry for over 40 years. It is regularly tested by the National Sanitation Foundation to make sure that it can deliver water which meets all U.S. EPA standards. However, CPVC piping should be used carefully in outdoor underground installations. There have been instances where solvents in polluted ground have actually migrated into the piping. Choose your piping materials carefully.
Author's Notes:
July 6, 2001
I just received an email from Gold Pipe and Fittings and
they have information that says solvents in polluted ground areas do not migrate
into the piping. Stay tuned to the website to get the facts.
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Comments:
Sylvia 19 Dec 2007, 10:22
Dear Tim: We just had some plumbing work done to replace typical gas tank
water heater with tankless. Involved addition of many water lines as
tankless went into our attic. Question is "how long will the water smell
and taste like flux after plumbing work complete?" When we walk into the
bathroom we can smell the water in the toilet, can smell the flux in water
flowing from sinks. Do not want to be poisoning ourselves! THANKS! S.C.
AsktheBuilder 19 Dec 2007, 10:54
Sylvia,
Flux usually is flushed out quickly. I would have expected it to be long gone by now.
Maurice Johnson 08 Jan 2008, 21:44
Tim, I am experiencing the same pin hole problems as noted above; except
all(9 holes) have occured only on the cold water lines, and so far within
20' of incoming supply line. Am wondering why the hot water lines are not
leaking?
Am considering going to plastic dedicated lines...tired of replacing gyproc in the basement . Thx, MJ
AsktheBuilder 09 Jan 2008, 07:43
Maurice,
I simply do not know...... It could be any number of things.
Timo Repo 27 Mar 2008, 00:04
We have here in Finland used to have electricity groundings done in the
power systems done so that the neutral wire can be connected into ground
lines in several places in one delivery system. At the same time, plumbing
has been done with copper tubes, without using flux in joining the tubes
together. This grounding method is creating sometimes high amperage of AC
current flowing in the tubes. Have you ever heard that this could lead to
internal corrosion in the pipes?
robert vasquez 27 Mar 2008, 14:38
I am going to run copper through the ground, about 12 inches down in dirt.
is their a lot of corrosion built within time on the copper? Is it a bad
idea to run the line on the ground?
AsktheBuilder 28 Mar 2008, 15:59
Timo,
I have not. We used to ground systems like that because the main water line in the soil made an excellent ground. But I feel that it is better to rely on separate driven rods.
AsktheBuilder 29 Mar 2008, 05:28
Robert,
Typically the copper will be unaffected. But there are some rare soils that can be corrosive to copper. I know as my soil map tells me that the soil - Illinoisian Till - around my house does not play well with copper.
timo repo 29 Mar 2008, 14:48
As a clarification, I was interested on internal corrosion of the copper
tubes in conditions where there is leaking power currents in the tube.
Regards; Timo
thelma 30 Mar 2008, 08:45
Hello tim, I am investigating failure of a LAGGED copper pipe which had a
flange made from leaded Gunmetal (Zn, Sn, Pb and Cu) when the lagging was
removed a black corrosion resistant coating was visible on the inside. the
body of the pipe was also badly corroded with pink and green coatings. Do
you have any idea as to what could have happened. Around the joint it seems
the soldering job was poorly done.
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