Replacing EIFS with Traditional Cement Stucco
DEAR TIM: I own a six-year old home covered with EIFS synthetic stucco. Even though I have the home inspected each year for moisture intrusion, I am convinced I will replace the EIFS with a mixture of real cement stucco, artificial stone and possibly brick. Can these products be installed over the existing EIFS? If it can, is it a good idea? If you were running this job, what other things would you do to make sure this is a permanent solution to moisture infiltration? Lynne McD., Arlington, TX
DEAR LYNNE: Another one bites the dust. I know you are not the first nor will you be the last person who abandons the EIFS cladding on their homes. While moisture can get behind just about any exterior surface on a home, the plastic nature of the EIFS synthetic stucco coatings tends to trap moisture. This trapped moisture is the match that lights the mold growth and wood rot fuse. When enough of either grows, you can have an explosive repair bill.
The EIFS synthetic stucco system must be removed for any number of reasons. Even if you could leave it on, it would pose an enormous hidden risk. Imagine what might happen when water gets behind your new cement stucco, brick and stone. If it then traveled behind your current EIFS cladding, you would be no better off than you are today. Furthermore, the detailing around windows and doors becomes very difficult if these openings are recessed too far behind the exterior surface.
If I were in charge of this job, I would want to inspect all of the exterior sheathing and framing that was covered by the EIFS stucco. The specter of mold and wood rot would have to be removed from my mind as a builder. If I discovered either, now is the time to repair any and all damage.
Removing the EIFS system also gives me access to the windows and the doors. There is a very good chance that these items were probably not installed with the best flashings. Furthermore, window and door flashings and their nailing fins must interface a special way with the water barrier that covers the wood framing and sheathing. I would not hesitate to use traditional 30 pound felt paper as the primary water barrier. It is a superior product that has yielded the spotlight to the glamorous air and water infiltration house wraps.
If you decide to use brick, you may need to employ a structural engineer. This professional will create a detailed plan that shows what structural elements are necessary to support the brick load. The weight of the stunning artificial stone and stucco does not concern me. Both of these stunning exterior finishes can be easily attached to the wood-framed structure.
I would give serious consideration to the creation of a hidden drainage plane behind the new stucco, brick and stone. Once the 30 pound felt paper has been properly attached to the home, you can fasten vertical strips of one half inch thick by two inch wide pieces of treated plywood to the outside of the home. The stucco and artificial stone may be applied to stiff galvanized mesh that is fastened to these strips. Water that gets behind these materials now has a large and direct pathway down to the ground. This system also allows air to readily circulate behind the masonry materials. Dry is good as water fuels mold growth.
Finally, consider tinting the stucco you apply. If you chose a color that compliments the stone and brick, exterior painting may be limited to a few trim boards. Be sure to have the stucco mason do a test panel. The stucco color often changes as it cures. Try to arrange for the stucco work to take place when outdoor temperatures are in the 50F range if at all possible. Extreme weather conditions of any type can cause all sorts of stucco installation problems.
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Andrew Jackson 10 Dec 2007, 07:04
Tim,
I live in Jacksonville,Fl, Our home is Concrete block with some wood siding. I have never been satisfied with the insulation value of this exterior. I was about to use 2 or 3 inches of Styrofoam efis to the exterior of the concrete and 30lb felt to the wood area. Then I started reading your comments about Portland based stucco. Which would yield the highest insulation value?
AsktheBuilder 10 Dec 2007, 07:49
Andrew,
Why not put a Portland-cement system over 2 inches of foam? You just have to do all of the detailing correctly.
Gina 24 Mar 2008, 19:22
Hi,
I am currently in the middle of purchasing a home built in 2004 with EIFS on the front. I noticed a hair line crack in the stucco. This crack runs through an outdoor light fixture. I did a home inspection and was told there is an "active" leak on the interior wall which is the same wall the crack is on in the stucco. I was told the leak would be fixed however the crack in the stucco was "cosmetic" and the owner refuses to address. After reading about EIFS I am starting to think this could be a structural defect. Please let me know what you think. Thank you. Gina
AsktheBuilder 25 Mar 2008, 07:20
Gina,
It might be. Although I have strong mystic powers, I can't weigh in unless I can be there to see it. :-> What did your ASHI home inspector say??????? Read my past columns about ASHI home inspectors.
Roma Paez 04 Apr 2008, 13:03
I have a 10 year old house and I am thinking of replacing our t&g siding
with something more durable and that will last a long time. What kind of
siding can you recommend?
AsktheBuilder 08 Apr 2008, 17:40
Roma,
Read all of my Siding columns. I think you will discover that one that contains cement is a winner.
Colin 01 May 2008, 17:34
Hi
I am from Scotland but have recently bought a lot in Mississippi. The lot is in a flood plain and the house has to be built on a 8ft pole/pier foundation. I would like the exterior of the house to have a tinted cement stucco finish. As I am from a country who don't use this way of building I am completely ignorant with regards to problems that might occur. I wondered if there would be any movement in the house in a strong wind and would any movement cause problems with the stucco?
Brooke 06 Jun 2008, 20:43
Hello,
We are currently in the process of negotiating to buy a 5200 sq ft house built in 1995 with synthetic stucco surrounding. We are planning to have an inspection done to check that water damage has not yet already happened. If the damage has not happened we plan to go ahead with the purchase on the condition that the seller "replace" the synthetic stucco. What are the pricing differentials between hardi planks/cement stucco and other options for a house of this description? (Basically we are trying to account for the replacement cost when making our initial offer)
Cherie 22 Jun 2008, 11:57
Recently my friend was helping paint my trim and he rested his ladder on
the Dryvit wall (synthetic stucco). It did not punch a complete hole in
the wall, but left an indent about the size of a quarter. I want to fill
this area in and paint over it, but I'm not sure if I can use a stucco
patch. I can't seem to find any patches for dryvit (synthetic stucco).
Can I even buy this product over the counter?
Victoria Tubb 13 Aug 2008, 22:29
I have found the house of my dreams, but, it is composed of EIFS.
It is a castle like structure that is beautiful on the outside, but needy on the inside. My current home is stucco and I love it! Very low maintence and a sturdy home. I was very suprised to find this dream home (hollow) and confused on the inside. Is there anyway to redeem this castle? I saw earlier that you advised removing the EIFS before adding brick or whatever. I really like this house(castle) it is really so cool on the outside, but I am anxious about the EIFS, It is in South Carolina, wet and hot, prime conditions for mold and other moisture problems. Are you saying the best solution is to remove all the EIFS to add a sturdier outer layer to the home? Are there any other solutions to secure the home? Any advice would be appreciated. View all comments |


