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Gutter Guard Truth

By Tim Carter
©1993-2009 Tim Carter

Summary: Thinking of purchasing a gutter guard to keep your gutters clean? Think again. These overpriced gutter guards still have to be maintained, and with a gutter covering that isn't clear, it's even tougher to find the clogs.

Important Author’s Note Update: Since this column was written, I have discovered at least two other gutter guards that sport the micro-mesh filtration screen. Testing of these Micro-mesh guards began early Spring of 2008. The results of the test are in! After 10-years of testing various types, a winner has been declared! Click for the gutter guard I installed on my house - Gutter Guard Test Results.

! IMPORTANT - Read Author's Notes at the End of This Column # # # Watch Video Below !

Not too long ago, I was talking with a salesman who worked for a gutter guard company on the Eastern seaboard. He was astonished that people actually paid the prices he quoted them. When he told me he was routinely getting $20 per linear foot for installed gutter guards, I almost fell out of my chair. It is imperative that you sit down and do some calculations before you decide to sign a contract for gutter guards.


DEAR TIM: Every fall, I get deluged with both leaves in my gutters and advertisements from companies selling gutter guard products that promise me I will never have to clean my gutters again. The few estimates I have requested have taken my breath away because of the high price. First, do these products fulfill their claims? If not, why? Is one better than the other? What is the most cost-effective way to keep my gutters free of leaves and debris? Stephanie W., Cranberry, PA

DEAR STEPHANIE: I am not surprised at all by your comments, but wonder why you only mentioned half of your problem. If you have deciduous trees, that drop leaves onto your home, then you undoubtedly suffer in the spring as well as the fall. All deciduous trees produce organic litter in the form of buds, flowers, seeds, small bits of bark, twigs and leaves on a never-ending annual cycle until they die and then fall over. Evergreen trees are just as guilty as they shed needles and other bits of debris throughout the year.

This simple gutter guard is working well now, but wait until spring. Those knock-out holes you see will be clogged with twigs, flowers, bark, seeds, flower buds, etc.
This simple gutter guard is working well now, but wait until spring. Those knock-out holes you see will be clogged with twigs, flowers, bark, seeds, flower buds, etc.
The prices you speak of for these gutter guard systems not only take my breath away, but they knock me back on my heels. I am convinced the pricing is based solely upon emotion. The companies that sell these products play upon the frustration the average homeowner experiences when faced with the periodic cleaning one has to do several times a year to keep gutters clean.

It is not uncommon for a homeowner to get a price of $2,000 to $3,000 to install gutter guards on the average home. The pricing varies from region to region, and the type of system being installed. There are do-it-yourself products you can get that will cost less than $200 for the average house so you can see there is a vast array of choices.

But for the moment, let's consider the system installed by a professional roofing company. For sake of discussion, I would like to assume an installed price of $2,500.00. I would also like to assume that you could invest this same money in a conservative stock that might go up in value just 7 percent per year. If you let the stock just grow in price, at the end of ten years its value would be nearly double having risen in value to $4,917.82. This means you still have your original money plus a gain of $2,417.82.

If you paid a roofing company just $85 per visit to clean your existing gutters three times per year, you would have paid out $2,550.00 over the same time period. Granted, you need to factor in inflation as the price of the labor will undoubtedly rise. But you don't need a PhD in Mathematics to see that at the end of ten years you will have clean gutters and possibly your original $2,500 still in your account, if you simply pay a roofer to periodically clean your gutters.




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The real truth is that all of the gutter guard products I have tested for years at my own home fail in one way or the other. As soon as new designs become available, the manufacturers tend to discover me and ask me to test the new products. All gutter guards do stop large leaves from entering gutters, but they all allow small organic debris to enter the gutter system or this debris clogs the gutter guards causing water to cascade off the roof!. If this organic debris that does enter the gutter is not cleaned out on a regular basis, you end up with a layer of goo and muck in your gutters.

If you must install gutter guards, then absolutely make sure you buy ones that allow you to easily see through them to the bottom of the entire gutter. Avoid gutter guards that have solid tops and small slits near the front edge. Look for gutter guards that have a larger mesh-type open structure that resembles a fishnet or even a chainlink fence. These systems allow you to aim a garden hose nozzle through the guard so that water can easily flush away the organic goo that will collect in the gutter. Remember, you will have to clean your gutters or the gutter guards themselves.

I have tested no less than 20 different gutter guard products over the past eight years. Each year, I get to look at ones that offer new hope or more of the same. Some of the gutter guards get horribly fouled with the spring-time debris that falls from the trees onto my roof. My pin oak trees create flower blossoms that resemble miniature lace. This mass of organic debris has terrorized each and every gutter guard. When my maple tree is not hit with a spring frost that kills the flower buds, the gutter guards are clogged within days with hundreds of thousands of maple seed helicopters.

Beware of salesmen who tell you all of the organic debris is washed away by rain or blown away by the wind. It is not true. You can test it yourself the next time you visit a home and garden show that has a small gutter guard setup with water cascading down a little roof, across the guard and into a gutter. Tear off a small piece of paper about the size of a postage stamp or your thumbnail and drop it onto the running water. I guarantee that it will be carried into the gutter or it will clog the guard. It will not fall onto the floor of the convention center.


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Author's Notes - November 7, 2004

As you might imagine, columns written as the one above have the potential to ignite a firestorm of controversy. Manufacturers of gutter guard products that do fail and the distributors who sell them are immediately cast in a deep shadow of doubt.

But imagine how I felt when I received the following email from Ms. Ann Pattison on November 7, 2004 the day the above column ran in The Toledo Blade:

"Hello Tim,

My name is Ann Pattison, I am the proud owner of A -1 Gutter Cleaning based in Toledo, Ohio. I am writing to you regarding your article in The Toledo Blade that appeared on November 7, 2004, about gutter guards. I absolutely agree with your article.

For years I have been telling customers the same things you mentioned in your article. It is the truth. I have been in business for 15 years and have been cleaning gutters for 20. I will install a screening if a customer really wants some type of cover. However, I also still go out yearly to maintain this screening. Each year I have to clean off the screen I installed and then I must flush out the gutters.

I also take a lot of screening off because it was never maintained properly. If you install a cover, you cannot find a clog unless you take everything off. This is very time consuming. There is lots of labor involved. Gutter guards that allow you to see the bottom of the gutters do work best just as you say. But if you use a cheap roll out screening, it will be pushed right into the gutter as soon as leaves fall on it. So you must check out the material you are having installed. That also makes a big difference.

I just wanted to write you and thank you for your article. You are absolutely right on everything you said especially on the pricing. It is ridiculous. I do install a good screening cover that is a very thick gauge and works very well with proper maintenance for less than $3.00 a foot. If I can be of any service to you, please let me know. You can reach me at 419-865-1941 or 888-888-0842.

Ms. Ann M. Pattison A-1 GUTTER CLEANING"


Several days later, I received a letter from a homeowner who lives in Bensalem, PA with comments of his own. Thanks Louis! You really proved my point.

November 11, 2004

"Dear Mr. Carter:

Thank you - Thank you - Thank you. Your article on Guarded Gutters hit the nail on the head. Every time I see a full page ad in The Courier-Times or other papers or on TV I get so angry. The guys who installed my gutters were called "Gutter Solutions." They came out once to clean the gutters, then when they clogged up again I called them back. They said the guy who signed my contract no longer worked there. I was out of luck.

I paid a lot for these gutters - so called Clog Free. What a joke! Sure, big leaves don't get in, but the other stuff which is even worse than leaves really clogs things up. My gutters overflow during a heavy rain like Niagara Falls.

If a gutter company says they will come out and clean your gutters for free if they clog. . . Get it in writing!!! Their bill even said: Guaranteed not to clog. It's a bunch of baloney.

Years ago I had seamless gutters installed. They added 3 foot screen covers, and they put them on upside down. Yes, Mr. Carter. Upside down. It took lots of phone calls to get them to come back out and fix things.

Thanks for listening to me Mr. Carter.

Yours truly,

Louis Cesarone, Jr. (Senior Citizen)"


Tim,

I've read your article about gutter covers and agree completely. Yesterday, I spent 2 hours cleaning out this foul muck in the bottom of my gutters that had clogged them up. I ripped off my gutter covers and threw them in the trash.

While looking for solutions to my being lazy and not wanting to clean out my gutters EVER again, I came across _ _ _ _ _ . (Named Removed by Tim Carter to Protect the Guilty) Have you tried these? Do they work or am I just hoping that I never have to be covered with muck and mosquito bites again anytime soon.

Thanks!

Amiee Staggs

Bloomington, IN


This email just arrived today, August 29, 2005.

Loved your discussion of gutter guards. I bought into the "never clean" line and purchased a system that had a solid cover over the gutter. Clogged up within 6 months! The company did come out and clean them, but after we had a major overflow and basement flooding. The company knows its product is not clog free -- they even had the gall to give me a special hose adapter so I could flush out their "clog free" gutters.

Eileen G.

Upstate NY



Comments:

Len Wedig
26 Nov 2007, 14:14
Tim,
What do you think about the foam triangle type cutter guards? Do they easily clog with small debris? They appear to be very easy to install and remove, but it would be difficult to see a clog in the gutter.
ATB
26 Nov 2007, 17:32
Not much. The best product so far that I have tested is the one that has the micro-mesh stainless steel that allows *nothing* into the gutter.
Kelly Kenyon
07 Dec 2007, 12:35
Tim,
I'm wondering if you have ever tested gutter maxx. Screened gutter products seem to want to lump us together with leaf guard as a revered curve. We are the only self flushing system on the market. We don't make any claims that nothing will get in. It's a proven fact the 20% will no matter what you've got on there. We do claim that our system is designed to handle it. We also don't claim to be no maintenance, but VERY low maintenance. Hit the fronts and tops of the gutter with a hose a couple of times a year and that's it. no interior cleaning. No ladders. I'd love to know if you've come across our product yet and if not I'd be happy to do whatever I can to get it in your hands.
AsktheBuilder
07 Dec 2007, 13:00
Kelly,
Yes, I did test your product. I am sad to say it failed for all of the reasons in the above column. The biggest issue with yours is that it is not at all easy to completely flush out the organic muck. You say in your comment there is no interior cleaning. On my roof test there was organic muck after the first season.
Marjie Darling
03 Jan 2008, 09:31
I've discovered two horrible problems with gutter guards: 1) With our severe winters, we are now having icicles hanging from the gutter. We did not have these before gutter guards. A huge shelf of ice fell off last year and destroyed our porch roof . Attic is insulated, I do have freeze shield (thank God!) but am astounded by this massive icing. 2) Hornets love to build nests under the guard in summer! I can't find spray to reach up a high as our almost 3 story home
(the reason I got gutter guards---gutters are so high.

Oh, there was a third problem: The "installer" that I contracted to do the work. I checked his licensure, reputation, insurance..... he SUB CONTRACTED the installation to a non-English speaking company.
Thanks, Marjie
Chuck Johnson
01 Feb 2008, 10:12
I own a full service gutter company. We clean thousands of gutters every year and you have a couple things right and a couple wrong. You are right when you say that there is no such thing as maintence free guards, what you want is an easily maintanable system that you can maintain from the ground. You are wrong in your assumption that you only need to clean your gutters 2x a year. Although that is what most homeowners think and do. How many oak leaves do you think it takes to clog an 2x3 outlet at the spout location. Once you start adding the cost of damage to your fascia and roof rafters caused by water damage, let alone the risk of injury from cleaning gutters you can easily recover the investment in quality guards. As to the readers comment about icicles, ice is caused by a disparity in temperature from the top of the roof (heat rises) to the edge of the roof(cool). Insulation is one part of the solution, the other part often missed is ventalation which helps keep the temperature variance closer. The ice she now sees on the covers was probably in her gutter and she did not notice it or it did not bother her (out of sight out of mind).
Willis Clarke
15 Feb 2008, 12:48
Tim, I appreciate your comments but am a little disappointed regarding what I wanted to do! I have a vacation home that has water problems (lack thereof), which requires trucking in 3200 gal at a time. The old well is not operatable, but is within a very large concrete cistern (7-10,000 gal); the area receives a yearly heavy rainfall. I had a bright idea that I could collect the waters off the house, garage, and shed, and pipe over to the cistern, not to drink but for general house and yard usage. However, your experiences indicate that I may not be able to collect without extensive filtering, or some other clever system of collection. Any thoughts? Thank you, Willis Clarke
AsktheBuilder
15 Feb 2008, 17:52
Willis,
You must not have clicked the link at the *top* of this page to read my most recent Gutter Guard column. I may have found what will work for you.
Deborah
14 Mar 2008, 16:45
Watched your video on gutter guards (just went to a home show that wanted !17.00 per foot). The plastic mesh you demonstrated looks alot like material used for pond filters. Seemed like a good compromise. However, had no luck finding any. Is there a name for these or can you tell me where I can find them? Thank you.
Hans Schellenberg
14 Mar 2008, 20:38
I heard that there is some kind of radically new gutter guard. From what i understand it is kind of stuff which fill most of the gutter but lets water thru. Don't if this is fact ot fiction. You know anything about this??
Thanks,

H. in Tampa

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