Bathroom Exhaust Fan Leaks Cold Air
Summary: Bathroom exhaust fans can dump
cold air into rooms if they are not installed correctly. There are several
places the cold air enters the bathroom fan exhaust pipe and room. Inferior,
low-quality fans are often the problem.
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DEAR TIM: My husband and I purchased a small ranch home built in the 1950's. A year ago we installed new exhaust fans in the bathrooms, kitchen and basement. Last winter I noticed cold air would fall out of the fan covers when the fan was not operating. The small bathroom is now the coldest room in the house. Did we make a mistake? Why is cold air coming into the house? Because heating costs are rising, we must stop or minimize the cold air infiltration. Jill L-H., Maumee, OH
DEAR JILL: My gut reaction is that you did nothing wrong. My experience tells me that you probably didn't do some extra things that would have made a big difference. Unfortunately these extra added touches don't come as part of the written instructions with many exhaust fans. I have never seen these tips on a sheet of paper. When you install as many fans as I have, you start to learn what works best.
Let's briefly discuss the dynamics of what is happening with the exhaust fans. I assume you used the suggested smooth-metal piping to connect the fan to the exterior of your home. My guess is the bathroom fan exhaust pipe is located in a cold attic space. If so, the pipe gets very cold when the fan is not in use. This cold pipe can cause the air inside the pipe to go from warm to cold. Cold air is denser and heavier than warm air and wants to go down, not up. This is why you feel it fall down out of the exhaust fan cover.
The fan itself should have an internal flapper damper that is supposed to block cold air, but these dampers usually fit poorly inside the fan housing and air can seep by them. I prefer to install a roof cap that is made to compliment the high-quality exhaust fans I install. These self-flashing exit caps have a great flapper damper with a felt seal that really closes tightly when the fan is not in use. Virtually no air works its way back down my exhaust pipes so long as the flapper is checked annually for dirt and debris buildup.
I have found that it is often best to vent fans and dryers through the roof. I urge you to watch this video of mine to see how easy it is to install the correct vent-cap flashing on a roof. Have no fear - if done right you will have no leaks.
It is also a great idea to insulate the metal pipe in any unconditioned space where it passes. If the metal pipe is in a cold attic space but well insulated, the pipe should not get cold as some of the warm air from your house will drift up through the fan and into the exhaust pipe.
I prefer to spray the metal exhaust pipes with foam insulation. This insulation is available in aerosol cans and is quite easy to work with. Be sure to clean the exterior of the metal pipe with soap and water as the metal pipe often is coated with a fine film of oil from the manufacturing mill. Wear very old clothes when working with the spray foam. Many foams have a urethane component and if the urethane foam gets on the clothes and dries, you can't get it off.
Be sure the entire length of the exhaust pipe is insulated all the way from the fan to the underside of the roof where it exits the house. This insulation will provide a secondary benefit by preventing or minimizing condensation inside the exhaust pipe. Many people think they have a roof leak during winter months as the exhaust fans operate. In most cases the water is simply condensation that forms against the cold sidewalls of the exhaust pipe and then runs downhill back to the fan.
Not all exhaust fans are created equal. Some have low-powered fans that can barely push open the first flapper damper much less the second flapper at the roof. As with many consumer products, the things that work better and are more reliable often cost more. When you shop for fans you will be shocked to discover it only costs a little more money to get a very high-quality fan.
Keep in mind that your house should also be equipped with a makeup air intake port. When exhaust fans, clothes dryers, central vacuum cleaners, fuel-burning furnaces and water heaters and fireplaces operate, they consume vast amounts of air. It is entirely possible that back drafting is happening in the bathroom fan exhaust pipe as it becomes the point of entry for air needed by another appliance that is sucking air from the house.
Makeup air intake ports can be as simple as a clothes dryer exhaust cap that has holes drilled in the flapper. I have also seen small hoods where the flapper is removed and small galvanized hardware cloth is inserted in its place. These makeup air intake points should be located in the utility room where furnaces and water heaters are located.
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Comments:
Michael Fritzlar 16 Dec 2007, 18:01
I recently purchased a home approching 100 years old and I would like to
install Kitchen vent, that would vent the steam/grease outdoors. I have two
major concerns:
1. I do not believe the air can be vented through the attic to the roof, as the house has two stories. How many feed does a vent require to be from the hood vent over the stove? I have a beautiful and I don't want to have to endure a major reno to vent air outside. 2. Living in climate that sees temperatures swing from the 90's in the summer to the low 10's in the winter, I am concerned with air leakage, hot and cold. When I have my conversation with the contractor what do I need to look for? What are the keys I should make sure I have written into the contract? Thanks in advance for all of your help Tim. Regards, Michael Fritzlar
AsktheBuilder 16 Dec 2007, 19:00
Michael,
All I can tell you is to purchase a high-quality fan and follow the installation instructions to the letter. You *must* go through the roof or a nearby exterior wall. The contract should call out the exact fan and that it be installed according to the manufacturer's instructions.
Erik 06 Jan 2008, 21:27
Tim,
As a follow-up to Jill's issue with cold air "falling out" from the exhaust fans, another possiblity that is often overlooked is cold attic air coming in through gaps around the fan housing. Very few contrators bother to seal these gaps, and quite often they cut a hole larger than the fan housing to facilitate the installation, knowing that the gaps will be unnoticable when covered by the fan grill. On the photo attached to your article you can clearly see gaps (minor ones) between the ceiling and the fan housing which need to be caulked or foam sealed to prevent continuous heat loss and cold air infiltration in the winter. Simply covering these gaps from above with fiberglass insulation will not prevent the air leakage, which is why these units should always be sealed with caulk or foam.
Anne Potts 21 Jan 2008, 15:36
Our exhaust fan above the stove, leaks cold air. When we purchased our
home, the previous owners said it was fixed, but it wasn't. What can we do
to stop the cold air?
AsktheBuilder 22 Jan 2008, 08:48
Anne,
You need to inspect it to see if the damper is stuck open or is partially open. There could be air leaks around the outside of the ducting as it makes its way outdoors.
Marcus Mathis 30 Jan 2008, 19:32
I have a kitchen range hood. The flap on the outside, doesn't stay shut,
and due to the wind - it usually spends most of it's time making noise,
flapping open and shut.
I pulled the flap off, and now obviously there is a noticeable amount of air coming in through the vents inside. Tim/anyone holding the answer, where can I find the self-flashing exit caps or dampers that I could install on the exterior wall of my house instead of the existing faulty model that is on there? I have searched online for several hours, now but still have come up empty. Please let me know if you can help direct me. Thank you, Marcus
AsktheBuilder 31 Jan 2008, 08:17
Marcus,
Did you try Nutone?
Teri 02 Feb 2008, 08:05
Hi Tim -
My bathroom has only one light switch, which, when you turn it on, also turns on the ridiculously loud bathroom fan. I am a champion bubble bather and I have begun to resort to moving a reading lamp into the bathroom to read in the tub. I just took the cover plate off of the switch and unscrewed the switch from the box in the hopes of being able to just disconnect the fan but the only electrical background I have is that I once dated an electrician. Can you help me disconnect the fan so that it doesn't come on whenever I turn on the light?? Teri
AsktheBuilder 02 Feb 2008, 08:14
Teri,
Maybe. The disconnect may have to happen up in the fan. Watch my Light Switch Wiring Video to get up to speed on how the power passes through the switch. You then need to figure out where it splits after the switch to go to the fan and the light.
Karen 12 Feb 2008, 18:57
We just baught a new house and one of the bathroom fans is vented through
and attic space over the garage out the soffit over the garage. We noticed
that it didn't vent that well and that it had a bend in the duct that was
hanging down. When we touched the vent there was water in it that had
collected there and made the duct dip down. We got rid of the water and
thought that would be it, but now we see water coming out of the vent in
the soffit and ice forming on the siding. we don't use that bathroom that
much and none of the other vents are doing that. Is that normal or is
there something wrong??
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