Compound Miter Saw

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By Tim Carter
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Summary: Confused on how to cut crown molding? Should you use a compound miter saw or a sliding compound miter saw? Miter saws are wonderful tools, but a compound miter saw is not mission-critical when it comes time to cut crown molding. Discover the way I cut crown molding without using a compound miter saw.

DEAR TIM: A compound miter saw has bubbled to the top of my power-tool wish list. I think I need a compound miter saw to put up some crown molding and wonder if it is necessary. Would it be better to get a sliding compound miter saw if I do go ahead? How do I discover the best compound miter saw? Reading several compound miter saw reviews has me pretty confused. Andy D., Nashville, TN

DEAR ANDY: I am sorry to hear about your confusion after reading the tool reviews. That is unfortunate as a compound miter saw is a significant investment, and you do not want to make a mistake when you are buying a specialized tool.

Let's discuss compound miter saws and crown molding first, since that seems to be the reason you are thinking of buying this power tool. A compound miter saw is a specialized saw that allows the saw blade to pivot in two different ways at the same time. This allows it to make a compound cut as you find on the ends of crown molding and roof rafters that intersect a hip or valley rafter.

You can see the saw blade is angled two directions at once. The shiny pistons are a giveaway that this is a sliding compound miter saw.  PHOTO CREDIT: Brent Walter
You can see the saw blade is angled two directions at once. The shiny pistons are a giveaway that this is a sliding compound miter saw. PHOTO CREDIT: Brent Walter
Compound cuts are very rare in typical residential construction. The vast majority of angled cuts in a home, such as miters on baseboard and window and door trim casings, are made with the saw blade cutting down through the material at a 90-degree angle, but the saw is rotated at an angle to make the miter. This cut is possible with a compound miter saw when the saw is set up like a regular miter saw.

You can cut crown molding without a compound miter saw. All you have to do is place the crown molding in the saw so it thinks it is already hanging up against the ceiling. The table of a regular miter saw and the vertical fence that rises up from the saw table are oriented at 90 degrees to one another, just like the typical wall / ceiling interface so it is easy to hold the molding at the funny angle.

If you put the crown molding upside down in the saw and hold it in the saw the same way it will be installed it your home, all you need to do is rotate the regular miter saw to the correct miter angle and make the cut. Because the crown molding is being held against the saw fence tilted down at an angle towards the table of the saw, the resulting cut is a compound cut even though you were not using a compound miter saw. Isn't that amazing?

I own a sliding compound miter saw and must tell you it is a fantastic tool. But the reason I love it is that the combination of the 12-inch blade and the sliding function allow me to make precision cross cuts on material as wide as 14 inches. I liken sliding compound miter saws to small portable radial arm saws. It can't do everything a radial arm saw can do, but it sure comes in handy most of the time.

A sliding compound miter saw is a wonderful tool to have around the shop or for a serious do-it-yourselfer. You will use it for many purposes, but don't buy it just to cut crown molding. There are many finish carpenters who love their compound miter saws and use them regularly to cut crown molding. But realize that the master carpenters of yesteryear installed crown molding without this fancy tool, much less a saw powered by electricity!

The best compound miter saw is a pretty subjective piece of advice. This is possibly why you had trouble with the tool reviews. You can have five different carpenters test the exact same compound miter saws in a side-by-side comparison and come away with five different first-place winners.

The weight of the saw can be an issue, the size and horsepower of the electric motor, the range of cutting angles, even the type and shape of the handle can make a difference to the user. One thing my miter saws must have is the ability to make cuts past 45 degrees. All of the miter saws I own can make cuts up to 50 degrees. This comes in very handy when installing crown molding on outside corners. Frequently the needed angle to make perfect cuts is 47 or 46 degrees.

Price is often a very accurate measuring device when you are comparing the quality of compound miter saws. This is a very competitive marketplace, and there are enough manufacturers that they have to create crisp features that set them apart.

If you are a manufacturer that wants to deliver exceptional quality, then you will probably include high-quality parts that cost more. These costs result in higher retail costs to the consumer. Over the years, I have never been disappointed when I have paid more for a high-quality power tool. I want to know it will be durable, and that it will produce accurate work. Those things are very important to me.





Comments:

Ken Davis
05 Feb 2008, 09:16
Tim,

I have been told by other carpenters that you can cut inside corners of crown on a compound miter saw and not have to do any coping, is this possible ? If it is would you send along advice on how this is done.

Thanks
Ken
AsktheBuilder
05 Feb 2008, 11:07
Ken,
It is indeed possible. But wasn't I clear above? You do *not* need a compound miter saw to make all of the cuts you need to install crown anywhere. You want crown-molding installation tips that allow you to do it like a pro? Then here is a shameless link:

http://www.askthebuilder.com/EB001_Crown_Molding_EBook.shtml
Kevin
20 Mar 2008, 06:10
How do I miter a 50 degree angle when my miter saw only allows a 45 degree maximum cut?
AsktheBuilder
21 Mar 2008, 13:55
Kevin,
Rotate the wood 5 degrees off the fence.
Diane Capellupo
02 Apr 2008, 15:19
I am truly a novice with crown molding and compound miter saws. I need a bit more information in using the saw. I know there are 2 settings on the saw one that moves the blade angle and the other the base angle. What do I set the angles for an inside corner assuming it is 90 degrees. My molding looks like the molding in Fig 3. I understand I may need to adjust the angles to get the correct fit, but I need a starting place. Thanks
AsktheBuilder
05 Apr 2008, 09:53
Diane,
Well, for one, you do not need a compound saw to do crown molding. A regular compound saw does the compound cut in the saw when you hold the trim the correct way in the saw. You need to read all of my columns about Crown Molding........ and you may need my Crown-Molding EBook if you have some tricky tasks.
Billy McMurry
09 Jul 2008, 19:11
Will a 12-inch miter saw work to cut 1x6 wood as like you said with crown moulding? (If you put the crown molding upside down in the saw and hold it in the saw the same way it will be installed it your home, all you need to do is rotate the regular miter saw to the correct miter angle and make the cut. Because the crown molding is being held against the saw fence tilted down at an angle towards the table of the saw, the resulting cut is a compound cut even though you were not using a compound miter saw.) I'm replacing the wood on the eaves of my home. Thanks
AsktheBuilder
09 Jul 2008, 19:14
Billy,

That saw will do what you need to have done.
Darrin
28 Oct 2008, 09:37
As of today witch slider miters stay the most accurate? Ive been using the newest Dewalt but i cannot keep it true for my critical cuts and i treat it very carefully not to bang it around at all. The nylon stopper seems to be to flexible and be OK for framing but for the close tolerance cuts i do in stain grade finish and high end cabinetry.I'm thinking about the Bosch slider.Any suggestions?? Thanks Darrin darrindeesmith@yahoo.com

Chuck
09 Nov 2008, 17:59
Please help!
I see back on March 20th Kevin had asked a question that I thought was going to help me resolve my problem.

I too want to install crown molding throughout our home and I’ve come to a realization that the majority of the corners (after purchasing a angle finder and not getting a proper fit) throughout our home are greater than 45’ degrees.

Unfortunately my compound sliding miter saw ONLY cuts 45 degree angles. Can you tell me (in detail) how I can cut the angles necessary using my compound miter saw?

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.

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