Clothes Dryer Venting
Summary: Venting your clothes dryer directly into the garage could be a building-code violation and a bad idea. Dryer vents exhaust a large amount of water vapor. Putting this condensation into your garage could create rust on unpainted surfaces, and worse, mold inside the walls and ceiling. Clothes-dryer venting should be to the outside.
DEAR TIM: My husband wants to vent our clothes dryer directly into our garage in an attempt to keep our cars warmer in the winter months. I think dryer vents should be directed outdoors. Can you settle this clothes-dryer-vent debate? Where would you vent the dryer and what are the top things you would avoid when installing a clothes-dryer vent? Cindy R., Redondo Beach, CA
DEAR CINDY: I get asked so often to referee these marital debates, I am thinking of buying a white-and-black striped shirt. Your husband should be congratulated for thinking of a way to use the waste heat from the clothes dryer, but his proposed method will cause some secondary effects that could end up costing you time, trouble and money. This may also be a building-code violation in your area, as it is not a good practice to have penetrations in the wall between a house and the garage.
Along with all of the heat that would pour into your garage, you also get scads of water vapor. If you have ever seen a clothes-dryer vent belching out a plume of water vapor on a cold winter day, you know this might be problematic. All of the liquid water that was in the clothes will get sent into the garage, if your husband implements his idea. This water will undoubtedly condense on all of the cool surfaces in the garage causing rust and corrosion on any unprotected steel tools or parts.
Dryer vents, and the importance of doing it right, are a very misunderstood aspect of home building and remodeling. Many people underestimate the thousands of cubic feet of air that are expelled by a clothes dryer each time it dries just one load of clothes. This air must be exhausted outdoors as your intuition told you. But this doesn't mean you can't capture some of the heat before you exhaust the air.
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I have found that it is often best to vent fans and dryers through the roof. I urge you to watch this video of mine to see how easy it is to install the correct vent-cap flashing on a roof. Have no fear - if done right you will have no leaks.
I always say to vent clothes dryer exhaust outdoors. You can do this sideways through a wall or up through a roof as hot air rises with ease. The most important thing to do is read all of the written instructions that come with a clothes dryer and follow them to the letter. The instructions often describe in great detail the preferred pipe to use and the configuration of the pipe as it makes its way from the back of the dryer to the outdoors.
Almost every clothes-dryer manufacturer will tell you to use smooth metal pipe as the venting material. This pipe should be 4 inches in diameter and extend some maximum distance. Each manufacturer will state how long the vent pipe can be. You need to do some math, as 90-degree fittings that allow you to turn corners must be accounted for in the calculation. A single 90-degree fitting usually equals 10 feet of straight pipe.
To extract heat from a simple clothes-dryer vent, try to install the metal vent pipe so it is near or at its maximum length indoors. If you have the luxury of an unfinished basement, you may be able to run the metal vent pipe at a slope from the dryer to a window that is perhaps 20 feet away. The hot pipe radiates the heat directly into your basement along its entire length.
You may be able to fabricate a crude heat exchanger using some scrap sheet metal. But if you do this, be sure it is made with a door that allows you to open it to check for lint buildup. Fires that feed on clothes-dryer lint are a reality, and you must always make sure your clothes-dryer vent is free of lint buildup.
It is very important that the clothes-dryer vent is well insulated if it passes through a cool or cold space like a crawl space or attic on its way to the exterior. If the pipe is not insulated, water can condense on the inside of the vent causing leaks or poor dryer performance if the pipe becomes filled with water.
Avoid installing the dryer-vent termination cap in a soffit overhang under a roof. The clouds of water vapor can easily find their way into the attic through soffit vents, cracks or any other small opening. This water vapor will condense on the cold lumber in the attic. I have seen photos of frost one-half-inch thick that has coated large areas of an attic. Other photos have shown a plume of black mold on the underside of the roof just above the soffit where the dryer vent exits the house.
You can readily purchase dryer-vent roof caps that connect to the 4-inch smooth metal pipe. These caps have a damper that keeps animals out of the pipe. They do require periodic maintenance to ensure lint does not clog the damper leaving it partially open.
Beware of the dryer-vent kits that say you can exhaust the air inside your home. For them to convert all of the water vapor to liquid water, they would have to be equipped with a very large refrigerated coil as part of the system. Without this coil, vast amounts of water vapor invade your home.
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Comments:
Leonard 18 Feb 2008, 15:41
Thanks, Tim! I often wonder if the people who use lady's hose in their
garage realize the problems they may be encouraging. The cost of proper
ventilation can be much less than the potential damage you correctly
mentioned. BTW, people have slipped on moistened garage floors (already
smooth) near vented dryers... Best wishes!
Kevin 24 Feb 2008, 17:29
I have a slightly different twist. I was hoping to have both the drier and
furnace exhaust discharge into a compost pile. Any thought on how, if at
all, this could work?
Kevin
AsktheBuilder 01 Mar 2008, 15:28
Kevin,
Your idea is crazy. Do it at the peril of you and your family.
Chris 24 Mar 2008, 10:55
If you exhaust the dryer to your roof, won't you get lint build-up on the
asphalt shingles? I would imaging there are quite a few people that would
not checking the vent openings and cleaning the lint buildup on the roof.
AsktheBuilder 24 Mar 2008, 11:23
Chris,
Great question! Does it rain where you live? Let Mother Nature take care of any cleanup. Also, tell me what is worse: lint on shingles or wood rot??????
Vlad 27 Mar 2008, 18:18
Can most dryer-vent roof caps be readily be de-linted from the outside? I
am considering having Icynene insulation sprayed in the attic, and I assume
this will make it impossible to access and clean the vent mesh from inside
the attic. Is a lint-trap installed between the vent and the dryer a good
way to minimize or even eliminate the need for such maintenance? Thanks!
El 27 Mar 2008, 19:17
My home is almost 6 years old. I live in OH.
The builder of this home has a good reputation but........... apparently (I've been told) he didn't know to put insulation around the vent from the dryer going up in the attic. At least 3 people that have homes built by this builder had problems with water leaking into different vents (bathroom exhaust fans, exhaust for dryer, and the like) during the winter problems early in 2008. I can't simply vent my dryer into the garage now that I see the problems that can come from that. It costs too much to move the washer/dryer. I may look into getting one of those washer/dryer combos that do not need ventilation for the dryer. What responses can I read about this?
AsktheBuilder 29 Mar 2008, 05:43
Vlad,
You will almost always need access from the roof side of the vent to clean the damper. You can't count on a clean lint filter to eliminate this maintenance.
AsktheBuilder 29 Mar 2008, 12:33
El,
I have a feeling the leak issue is not hard to fix. Why not get an expert roofer out to see if it is a flashing issue?
Danny 30 Mar 2008, 14:37
My dryer is vented up through the attic and out the roof. I have been
having problems with my dryer forming some sort of black build up that
leaves my white clothes looking dirty. My wife has cleaned out the dryer
multiple times and I went as far as changing the complete ductwork to try
and solve this. I have a solid vent pipe from the laundry room and into the
attic then in the attic I am using a silver flexible duct to the actual
vent leading to the exterior. What can I do to stop this? Would it be
better to run the vent down through the crawl and out the side of the house
to prevent condensation from traveling back thru the duct and back into the
dryer? (This, I suspect, is causing the problem but I'm not sure) Please
help!
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