Shower Soap Dish
DEAR TIM: You helped me a week ago when I decided to replace my shower head. Believe it or not, the shower head slipped from my hand and broke the shower soap dish. This small weekend project has turned into a nightmare. How do I replace the ceramic soap dish? What else can go wrong? Alan L., Jackson, TN
DEAR ALAN: Oh my friend are you in a world of hurt now! You are not the first person with good intentions to cause a cascade of home-repair events. Replacing your ceramic soap dish is not going to be easy. It may be time to call in a professional tile setter. No matter who does the job, be sure to finish installing the new shower head before the soap dish is repaired.
Your wall soap dish may be easy to replace, and then again it could be extremely hard to remove. It all depends on how old the tile job is, the substrate behind the tile and the level of skill of the installer.
The first thing to do is to locate a new ceramic soap dish that matches the broken one. This may be difficult, especially if your tile has been up for over ten years. You are trying to get a soap dish that will cover over the field tile just as the broken one does. Many ceramic soap dishes have a flange that allows them to cover over the adjacent tile by about one-quarter inch.
The hardest part of your task will be to take the existing tile soap dish out without damaging any of the surrounding tile. The first thing you need to do to have the best chance of success is to remove the grout that is between the soap dish and the tile. You can attempt this with a small rotary grinder that resembles a dentist's drill, or you can try to very carefully chisel it out with the corner of a stiff putty knife. No matter how you do it, go slowly and tap the grout with care.
When the grout is removed, you can try to carefully break the remainder of the soap dish making sure you do no damage to the substrate behind the soap dish. If you have access to a small hammer drill, try drilling a series of holes down the middle of the soap dish from top to bottom and side to side. The holes may act as stress-relief points and the dish will fracture along the holes. Once you get one corner of the soap dish out, try to break the remainder away chunking the ceramic fixture towards the vacant corner. Break out small pieces at a time. Wear gloves and goggles as the ceramic chunks are very sharp.
Once the old soap dish is gone, you need to ensure the substrate is in good shape. If it is cement board or a true cement base set in metal lath, you should be in great shape. If the substrate is gypsum based, inspect it to make sure it is sound.
The holes you might see on the back of your soap dish need companion holes in the same spot on the substrate. The holes allow for thinset or grout to droop into the holes and sag just like mortar oozes from under a brick. This u-shaped drooping compound, once hard and dry, is what locks a ceramic soap dish into position. The mastic you spread onto a wall for the tile is generally not intended to hold a soap dish in place.
Mix grout or thinset so it is fairly thick. It needs to be plastic so that it will droop, but not so plastic that it flows. Cut two pieces of duct tape and just lightly stick them on the tile near where you are working. You will need these to hold the new soap dish in position as soon as you set it into place.
Make sure the substrate and the new soap dish are dust free and slightly damp. Apply a generous amount of the grout or thinset to the back of the soap dish making sure it is pushed into the holes. Push some into the substrate holes. Add just a little more to the back of the soap dish and push it into position. Immediately tape it along the top edge to ensure it will not move or fall away from the wall. Wait 48 hours before removing the tape so you can grout the soap dish to finish the job.
The back of most ceramic soap dishes has a square or rectangular raised area that is the same thickness as the tile that is adjacent to the soap dish. This raised area is what creates the gap where the soap dish is grouted to the tile.
It is important that the gap between the new soap dish flange and the tile is no more than one eighth inch. If it is more, there may be some old mastic or thinset on the substrate. This needs to be removed to achieve professional repair results.
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a 05 Aug 2008, 11:35
I had this happen when I was finishing a new shower stall. The plumber
dropped something and put a hole in a soap dish. He didn't even leave a
note but left it for me to discover, so I wasn't a happy customer.
I was able to replace the dish by carefully chipping out the old one, but it was not a good thing. I was able to get an exact replacement because it had been recently done. You might want to stockpile a spare dish if you are retiling a shower in case this happens in your future. I am. Memo to all: Might want to wrap your tiled-in soap dishes with foam before beginning repairs that might result in accidentally dropping something heavy on them! They are very thin and not as sturdy as tile.
John Aker 26 Nov 2008, 17:40
Thanks for the info. My soapdish fell off the ceramic tile. The tile had
been abraded but it still didn't stick after a 3 year use.
James 11 Sep 2009, 11:34
Just bought a new home with a busted soap dish in the master bath.
Fortunately it appears that the majority of the previous dish is outa' here
so it won't leave a lot of chipping to be done. I appreciate this walk
through and look forward to twisting up a lefty and taking a crack at this
as soon as the closing! God bless!
Cherie Dong 19 Jan 2010, 19:47
This article is very helpful. I just bought a condo. The soap dish is
missing. As the last paragrash said, I noticed the large gap between the
plange and the tile when I tried to set the soap dish in. My quesiton is
how to remove the thinset or old mastic without damage other tiles? Is the
mastic a whole piece or just under that one tile(soap dish) place?
Jonathan 23 Jan 2010, 01:42
Why would you buy a home without first stipulating that things like
soapdishes and broken ceramic fixtures be fixed?
Lorri Ewalt 27 Jun 2010, 20:05
Thanx for the info. Now I Know why there is no hardware needed to go with
the soapdish, and what those 2 holes in back of it are for.
Brad Lane 25 Jul 2010, 19:58
I have non-sanded grout POLYBLEND brand will that work to set the soap dish
in of is it best to use a thinset conpound
michele marino 22 Feb 2011, 10:17
Where can I buy the standard size replacement soap dish for this repair
job? My broken soap dish looks exactly like the one in the picture... HOw
much will this job cost overall?
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