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Downspout Drainage Pipe Installation Tips

By Tim Carter
©1993-2008 Tim Carter
Summary: Drainage pipe installation is simple. Downspout drainage pipes do not have to be buried deeply. The drain pipes should also be installed in undisturbed soil about 6 feet away from the foundation. Lay drain pipes in beds of gravel for best results.

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Downspout Drainage Pipe Installation Tips

Frequently I see builders install downspout drain lines close to the foundation of a new house. They do this long before the backfill dirt around your house has compacted. This is a mistake.

Piping installed in uncompacted ground will often develop negative pitch. This means that the pipe drains the wrong way! In many cases, the stress on the pipe caused by compacting soil actually fractures the pipes or cause joints to leak. This is unacceptable.

The better choice is to install this piping in virgin soil which was undisturbed by the original foundation excavation. This may mean staying 5 or 6 feet away from the foundation. What a small price to pay for long term peace of mind!

Always try to lay the pipe in a bed of sand or gravel. Don't allow an underground pipe to act as a beam. If a pipe has a hollow spot beneath it, it will become a beam just as soon as dirt is piled on top of it. The weight of the dirt (often 100 lbs per cubic foot!) will cause the pipe to bend or break.

If your soil is rocky, be sure to cover the downspout drain pipes with sand or smooth gravel. Sharp rocks can crack piping materials.

How Deep are They Buried?

Downspout drain lines do not have to be deeply buried. In fact, if your lot is fairly level, you must be very careful as to how deep they are installed. If you go too deep, the pipe may still be underground when you get to the discharge point!

Think about starting the installation at the point where the pipe will discharge. Work backwards towards your house. Keep in mind that you may have to pass under sidewalks or driveways. Never install a "trap" in a downspout drain line. A trap is a low spot where water or solid particles can collect. The solid particles may eventually clog the pipe. If you live in a cold climate, trapped water may freeze and burst the pipe.

In many instances, I would dig a trench only 16 inches deep. This trench would follow the natural contour of the ground. A trench this deep allows you to have a foot of dirt over the pipe in many locations. Trenching machines work great! Set the depth and it follows the contour of the ground for you. Watch out for buried electric lines! ZOT!

 






Comments

Dave in Rochester
17 Dec 2007, 09:06
Hi Tim,

With all the snow and ice in the Northeast I was wondering if you have an idea to solve my problem. I have some downspouts that connect to PVC pipe in the ground that drains away to the side of the yard. Problem is that with all the snow melting and then freezing, the bottom of pipe is now encased in a block of ice and the water is backing up the pipe and coming out next to the house where some of the window wells are filling up with water and leaking into the basement.

I was thinking about putting on a diverter pipe for the winter at where the gutter enters the PVC near the ground so that it would a have a relief escape for water. But if its buried by snow as well won't the end of this pipe probably freeze up as well even though it isn't at the low point in the yard? Any ideas? Thanks....
Harrassed Handyman
04 Jan 2008, 15:46
Tim:

I have the same problem as "Dave in Rochester." As a handyman, I was asked to help solve an old movie theater's downspout problems. Water freezes inside the downspout until it's one big, solid spoutsicle---from the ground to the roof 25 feet above.

I thought that if I could keep the last six feet of the downspout open---the part that angles away from the building---then the 25 feet of vertical pipe would stay clear. So I wrapped the angled part of the pipe in heat tape. But the problem remains.

I've heard there's a type of heat tape that goes inside the downspout. Would that help and, if so, would it need to be placed inside the entire run of downspout, or just the non-vertical run?

Thanks for your help.
AsktheBuilder
05 Jan 2008, 07:58
Handyman,
You are fighting a losing battle! Wherever the heat ends...... the ice will form! The next complaint from the building owner will be that you now caused all sorts of ice to form on his parking lot......
Andy in Colorado
09 Feb 2008, 21:56
I live at 7500' altitude and have the same problem as well described by Dave in Rochester. Snow around the house gets so deep it blocks the pipe exit with ice. What to do? Thanks....
AsktheBuilder
10 Feb 2008, 07:52
Andy,
I am sure you read my other response. It is a losing battle. Settlers to Colorado did not use gutters and downspouts........ They let the roof snow and melt water hit the ground. I am going to do the same thing in my new home in New Hampshire. I will not have gutters but will create a ring of rounded gravel around the house at the drip line. The water will be harvested with a trench drain that connects to a large cistern. This water will be used for outdoor plants and firefighting.
Mark
10 Mar 2008, 23:54
I use a product called easy heat. It is an electric heat wire that runs in the gutters, on the roof edge and down the down spouts. You decide when to turn it on and off. Creates a continuous flowing area for the water to exit. I live in Utah, lots of snow and these work great.
The down side is they are a little pricey, but you only have to buy them once.
Best of luck!
chris
12 Mar 2008, 09:37
I bought a 16 yr old house recently. After removing dead bushes around foundation I noticed these PVC pipes up against the foundation. There is one on each side of the house. Each looks buried vertically with about 6 inches out of the ground and filled with small stones and no lid. What are these? I asked neighbors and knowone knows. They have the same pipes. Also, I'm now seeing seep in the block walls of my basement and wonder if I messed with something associated with these PVC pipes.
AsktheBuilder
14 Mar 2008, 13:46
Chris,
It could be anything. Dig more around it to see what it is. You can't hurt a thing. Watch for underground utilities.
Kevin
15 Mar 2008, 17:27
Can you run the downspout drains into the french drain ?
AsktheBuilder
15 Mar 2008, 19:15
Kevin,
No.

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