Installing Concrete Overlays
Summary: There are many steps to laying a concrete overlay. The following article will walk you through the prep period to the cleaning up period. It is important to remember to have the correct materials including Portland cement, fine and coarse sand and pea gravel. Work in sections and be sure to spray the surface with a curing compound (or cover with plastic) when its finished.
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Time to Work
Let's get to work! Now that the concrete surface is clean and all loose material is gone (you did do that didn't you?), we just need to provide the forms to create crisp lines on the sides of the slab. You can do this with 3/4 inch thick pieces of 1x4, or 1/2 inch pieces of plywood which have been ripped cleanly and evenly with a table saw. Hold the edging up to the desired thickness of your overlay. A gauge block works great for this! What's that? Well, let's say you are doing a 1/2 inch overlay. Cut a 4 inch by 4 inch piece of plywood and set it on the old surface at the edge. Hold your form board flush with this little block, nail the form board to a stake to secure the established height and you are ready to rock and roll.
Pre-existing Cracks
Undoubtedly, your concrete surface may have some original control joints or other cracks. These must be marked on the sides of the forms. Why? Because these cracks WILL telegraph through the new overlay. You need to install your own new control joints with a standard jointing tool to make a nice new line!
You can also take care of this condition by pouring the overlay in sections. Simply do one block at a time. Install a form board the same height or depth of the overlay in between the two side form boards. This will produce a nice crisp line for you as well.
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The Materials
Your material requirements are simple and inexpensive. You need Portland cement, fine and coarse sand, and possibly some pea gravel. You will need pea gravel if you intend to do an overlay thicker than one inch.
The cement and fine sand are used as your glue. The cement, coarse sand, and possibly pea gravel are used for the overlay material.
If you are doing a thin overlay, less than one inch, moisture loss from the thin overlay is critical. If water leaves the mixture too quickly, the overlay can be subject to plastic shrinkage cracks and 'curling'. The overlay can actually delaminate from rapid moisture loss.
One of the ways the material looses water is by suction from the old concrete. In other words, the concrete sucks the water from the fresh overlay. To avoid this, the old slab should be wetted and kept wet for 12 hours before you start. You can do this by wetting the slab and covering it with a plastic sheet. Be sure to remove standing puddles before starting to work.
The Mixtures
You don't need fancy admixtures or bonding agents to get great results. Good old cement will do just fine. The mixture for your overlay consists of coarse sand, cement and possibly gravel. You want a minimum of seven bags of cement for each cubic yard of overlay you apply. For purposes of volume measurement, this equates to three parts sand to one part cement. Of course, if you add more cement, say 2.5 parts sand to one part cement, your chances of success will do nothing but increase.
If you are doing an overlay that contains gravel, you would mix two parts gravel, one part sand and one part cement.
The cement paint is easy. It is a one to one mixture of fine sand and cement. Of course you can also go a little heavy on the cement to get a greater bond. You mix these two ingredients dry and then add water to make a slurry just like a rich paint. Only mix what you can use in one hour or less. Remember, it is easy to mix up a quick batch!
Consistency
Remember earlier when I said that water is the primary cause of concrete failure? Well, don't goof up! I would like to see you mix up your overlay material so that it resembles a somewhat stiff mortar. If you can readily pour it from your wheelbarrow and it flows like a bowl of clam chowder soup, too much water!!
I would like to see the consistency of thick oatmeal. Remember it can't be so stiff that you can't easily spread it.
Ten Feet at a Time
Let's work in sections. Don't try to tackle the entire driveway at one time, especially if you have not finished concrete before. Let's just do 10 feet or so at a time, or work block to block on top of the existing surface. We already talked about recreating lines and how to form at a line.
Remember that as you mix each batch, that batch has a separate setting time than the one before. It is kind of like putting rolls in an oven at different times. They will all brown at different times! You don't want to get caught trying to mix or install a new batch while the other one is ready to finish!
Blending Your Overlay
Earlier we talked about different levels where the bad surface meets a good one. If you have to taper your overlay to meet a surface that is flush, it is not a problem. The overlay material without pea gravel can be applied successfully in a layer as thin as 1/8 inch! Just make sure that it has a good amount of cement in it. If you dilute this thin layer with water, it will surely fail.
If you are doing an overlay that contains pea gravel, you will need to mix a batch of overlay that just contains sand. This overlay will be blended into the gravel batches as you get close to the surface you are working towards. In other words, you may wish to start to taper your overlay four feet away from the flush surface. The last four feet of overlay will then contain lesser and lesser amounts of gravel. The final foot may be just the pure sand mix.
The Paint
OK, the stuff is mixed and we are ready to go. Well, did you have your helper mix up a batch of cement paint? Great! Is the surface damp? Wonderful! The helper should start to paint the old surface just ahead of the individual who is applying the overlay. Don't put paint down that can't be covered with overlay concrete within five minutes!
Screeding & Finishing Tips
Use a straight 2x4 or other board that will stretch beyond each form board by one foot. This is how you level off the overlay material. Start at one end. Using a back and forth motion like sawing a piece of wood, slide the board over the form boards while you advance it like a bulldozer. Fill in any low spots as you go.
Within a matter of minutes, maybe a half hour, the overlay mixture will get fairly stiff. You can imprint it with your thumb say 1/16th inch. It is time to finish. Use a wood or magnesium float or a broom to give the slab your finish. Brooms are easy. You just lightly drag it over the material. Floating requires some technique. Don't press too hard. Use a circular motion and lift the leading edge of the float so it doesn't dig in.
After you are finished, spray the surface with curing compound or cover it with plastic for four to five days. Rapid moisture loss will weaken the overlay! The following day, feel free to lift the plastic and mist the concrete. Keep the top surface damp and you will have an awesome surface!
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Comments:
Joy C 07 Dec 2007, 23:20
Dear Tim,
Happy Holidaze. Unfortunately, times have not been happy and most dazeful for me lately. Here's the deal ... need your guidance. I apologize in advance for this lengthy e-mail. I live in an 11 year old condo, second floor, above my garage as well as two of my neighbors' garages. My master bathroom has no exterior walls (except one of them is next to a neighbor). It is approx 100 sq ft. Bathroom has NO windows. It has a glazed ceramic tile shower/cultured marble roman tub combo with a three foot pony wall between the two. The shower (including a portion of the pony wall) was poorly tiled and a handyman I hired to redo part of it did not do a good job. In the interest of home improvement sought to retile this area recently. Greenboard was used...two layers of greenboard on one of the walls. NO vapor barrier. It was moldy on lower portion. Removed remainder of greenboard on the other walls -- a single layer on both as well as the 4 by 4 glazed tile. No vapor barrier behind any shower walls including pony wall. Builder used nongalvanized nails on walls and floor. Most were rusty. Removed plastic shower pan from floor. Again no vapor barrier, and of course no felt or membrane under pan either. Majority of 15/16" OSB (probably two layers of OSB?) is mostly black from water intrusion and appears to be dry rotted. So does the pony wall (framed with 2 by 6s) and studs on floor underneath the two by fours (they frame shower pan). Do not know if dry rot on floor extends under the tub, beneath walls into my laundry room or behind wall to neighbor ... :( This is the odd part -- the builder poured an appox 3/4" concrete layer OVER the OSB. Concrete over shower pan was crumbled due to the water. I've chipped away the 'crete immediately outside the shower, some portions are black (prob mold), other portions are not. This process is cumbersome, because outside the shower pan the stupid builder put laminate over the crete, then glued down carpet pad and carpet. Here's my questions: Why use a concrete pour? To meet fire code? Or sound barrier? Or both? Or is just plain stupidity in attempting to level the floor? Probably need to remove entire OSB/crete subfloor and remove the tub as well. What do you recommend as replacement subfloor? Two layers of OSB? Or 3/4" plywood? Obtained visual behind tub through the pony wall. A big nightmare. Builder used ASB plumbing and it is partially ABOVE the subfloor/crete pour behind the tub. It appears a few compression fittings were used with this plumbing. From my research, those fittings do NOT meet code b/c they are not reachable. Do you recommend hiring a plumber to redo this plumbing? Your answers will be extremely helpful. This entire process has been extremely stressful. And it probably will continue. Extremely difficult to find reputable help in Las Vegas. Too many shady contractors that just plain won't do things right. And it takes a long time to do this by myself after a ten hour day at my day office job. BTW, I cannot go through my homeowner's policy due to another home issue last year (another claim would result in loss of coverage) Forget the HOA -- their policy has a $5,000 deductible. Sir, appreciate any assistance you can provide. Merry Christmas. Hope to hear back from you real soon. Sincerely and Respectfully, Joy
AsktheBuilder 08 Dec 2007, 06:56
Joy,
Believe it or not, the original shower-base installer did one thing right! The mortar mix on top of the OSB is an often-skipped step by most installers. It prevents oil canning or flexing of the base that over time causes cracks in the base. There are pros in Las Vegas. You should use my Bid Sheets to find them. Go stroll through my Store above. The link to it is way at the top of this page.
dennis daniels 25 Mar 2008, 22:11
I have had a concrete overlay done is my house. The problem I have is that
there is trowell marks in the concrete in a wave like motion. Also, the
floor has no shine to it. What can I do about a matt looking finish that I
have and how can I give the floor a high gloss finish. Thanks, dennis
AsktheBuilder 26 Mar 2008, 20:10
Dennis,
Unfortunately very little. All I can say is to add a third layer and get it right this time.
chuck 11 Apr 2008, 21:38
I have a large driveway that is cracked and stones peeling up. I had a
contractor tell me I would be safe putting a 4" overlay of concrete down.
Just taking out the apron at the top of the drive and garage. Will this
workk?
Shirley C 18 Apr 2008, 13:53
Dear Tim:
I read your columns about installing stucco stone to a concrete brick wall. I am getting ready to do this, but my concrete brick wall has a layer of water based primer paint on it. Do I need to remove this first, or will the cement paint and mortar penetrate the primer allowing for good adhesion?
AsktheBuilder 30 Apr 2008, 08:19
Chuck,
You can do that so long as you install reinforcing steel as I describe in other columns.
Dana B 10 Jul 2008, 00:59
Dear Tim:
I am using a concrete floor leveler on my porch, in order to prepare the surface for application of a "stoneffects" coating. It's not a self-leveling compound, because I did not find one rated for outdoors, in the stores around here. I troweled on one layer of the leveler, which produced a more even surface than before, although it's far from being smooth. I am hoping to achieve more smoothness with a second coat of the leveler, but what to do about the trowel marks (I mean the ridges left by the sides of the trowel as it pushes the leveler)? I read an earlier comment about trowel marks left after an overlay in a house. Do I have the same problem and get it right the next time? If so, where do I learn how to trowel without leaving marks? Thank you so much. View all comments |


