Engineered I Joist Advantages

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By Tim Carter
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Summary: Engineered I joists offer many advantages. The floor joists can be purchased in varying depths with different flanges on the top and bottom. The I joists install in the same way as a traditional wood floor joist and make for a stiffer, squeakless floor.

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I remember the first time I saw engineered I joists used in a job here in Cincinnati. I would be willing to bet $500 that it was in the late 1970's. They were the floor joist components of a mini-condominium project. One of the condo units was half finished and the owner had abandoned the project. I was considering purchasing the condo to finish it out for resale. I didn't buy the condo - the reason had nothing to do with the floor joists although I must admit I had my reservations about the seemingly undersized structural material!

Think Steel

The next time you pass buy a commercial building under construction or you can view a traditional I beam up close, I want you to really look at the way one of those is made. Look at how thin the steel web or center portion of the beam actually is. Often they are just slightly thicker than 1/4 inch! I then want you to imagine how much weight one of these single beams can carry. Note that the beams don't have to be 1.5 inches thick - the thickness of a standard floor joist - to do the job.

It should come as no surprise that wood I beams can copy the same format as steel I beams and do so with predictable, consistent strength results. This is exactly how engineered wood I joists were born.

Different Depths

The stiffness or load bearing capacity of a beam (steel or wood) is a function of the distance the beam spans, the type of material it is made from, and the depth or height of the beam. You can demonstrate this very easily.

Imagine framing a floor using 2x4's as floor joists. If you made those span a typical 13 foot space, I don't know if I would walk across the floor. If it didn't collapse under my weight, it would most certainly sag! Now, substitute 2x12 joists in the same system. You and I both know that the floor system will be as strong as can be and 30 people standing on the floor probably would make little difference. The strength of the floor system increased at a faster rate than the depth of the joist material. In other words, the difference in depth of the joists increased by about 3.5 times, but the strength of the system increased possibly by a factor of 20 or more. All of this simply because we increased the depth of the joist or beam!

The new engineered floor joists can be purchased in a variety of depths that range from 10 inches to 16 inches. Each depth can be purchased with different top and bottom flanges as well. All of these things factor into the allowable distances you can span with each type of joist.

If you want a stiff floor, you simply go with a deeper floor joist or shorten the span of the floor joist. All of these considerations should be done by a structural engineer who designs floor systems. Don't even think about trying to guess what size you need!

Programs Also

The engineers who design I joist floor systems use very sophisticated computer programs that were developed by the floor joist manufacturers. The engineers simply have to enter in certain data about the size of the house and the anticipated floor loads and BINGO! out comes the recommended floor joist size. Don't even bother about asking to get this software. It is only available to engineers and lumber company professionals who are trained how to use it. Floor design is NOT a DIY project.

I-Joist Advantages

The APA PRI-400 standard makes engineered wood I joists easy to specify and order.

I joists install much in the same manner as traditional wood floor joists. There are several things you must do to insure a fault free installation, however this can usually be learned in several hours. No single detail is very complicated. All of these details are illustrated exceptionally well in a FREE booklet that is offered by the APA. Visit the Engineered Wood Association's web site at www.apawood.org and check under publications for information that can be downloaded.

I joists are available in deeper depths than standard floor joists. The largest standard floor joist is a 2x12. You can order I joists in depths up to 16 inches! This allows you to span greater distances which normally translates to wide open spaces.

I joists are also more consistent in size and shape than traditional floor joists. Some new flooring materials (laminate flooring) can't be installed over traditional floor joists that have different height crowns. You don't have this problem with I joists! They are true and straight all of the time.

I joist span design standards make them a stiffer floor. This can help reduce squeaks. It also makes a more solid floor. I joists are superb. Give them a serious look!





Comments:

nelson
22 Jun 2008, 15:05
what are the different size of i-joist , and what are tgis is it the same thing also what to know what are lvl and what purpose they serve im sales guy and it a new field about i wanna be informed and what i sale
Jim Campbell
24 Jul 2008, 14:09
I-Joist "sizes" range from depths (width) of 9.5", to 24". The width of the flange material ranges from 1.5" to 3.5". As far as lengths go, you name it is the answer. They are manufactured and shipped in lengths up to 72'. Then the end user, or lumber yard, just cuts them to any length. As far a TGI's, it actualy TJI and this stands for Truss Joist I-Beam. It is the short name for the beams manufacture. There is also LPI's, (Louisiana-Pacific), GPI's, (Georgia Pacific), and so on. They all make I-Joist, that are mostly the same.
LVL stands for "Laminated Veneer Lumber", and it is mainly used for beams and headers. It can be used for studs, stair stringers, moulding parts and so on. The deal on LVL is mostly the same as I-Joist, they are stronger, span farther then solid sawn lumber. The new addition to this product line is known as stand lumber. It looks just like OSB, but it is made to be a structural beam and header. This newer product is not as "strong" as LVL, but it is less expensive. Think of it it Plywood and OSB terms, same cost advantage for OSB, and strength advantage for Plywood. One great thing about EWP products is that they waste much less of the trees they come from, and they are stonger and straiter.
wayne wite
24 Jul 2008, 21:18
What are the recommended methods to fasten 3/4"OSB T&G subfloor to the I joists to ensure against loosening and squeaky floors, specifically what type, size screws, nails, glue.
Beth
30 Oct 2008, 21:47
Can you give me an estimate of what it would cost to put in an LVL beam that covers a 12 foot span to support a celining. There is not a second floor and the beam will have to be installed in the attic. I am interested in the price of the beam but also the amountof time that it takes to complete such a job as well as an average hourly wage that a contractor would charge. Thank you for your help.
janie
20 Jan 2009, 10:49
What is the suggested joist spacing for composite decking?
Can I butt joint composite deck boards, or should I leave a gap?
Bill
22 Mar 2009, 15:18
To do a fair price comparison of eneineered lumber where weight or a larger size is not necessary, I would like to know the following:
A compairison of the load specifications of a 2x12 20'#2DF with an engineered 11-7/8" 20' I beam of the flanfe size that carries the same aproximate spans, costs?
Tony
02 Apr 2009, 18:12
Janie
I would space your joists 16" on center and space your composite deck boards 1/8" apart.
John
10 Jul 2009, 15:42
Should web stiffeners or crush blocks be used where I-joists cross a main support beam ?
parviz ghavami
21 Jul 2009, 23:44
I have a question . We have a garage with 20' span . Can we use area between ceiling and attic to put some extra weight? People say the joists are not designed to carry the load. That means the joists do not act the same as beams . But , generally is it possible to desgn any joist system with proper size to be able to hold the weight without any problem like sagging? Please let me know. Thank you.
Mike
10 Aug 2009, 19:03
I'm building a workshop inside a metal building. The inside dimensions of the workshop are to be 28 ft 10 in by 20 ft. (metal barn building is 50 x 30 with 5" x 5" support posts approximately every 10 ft). I had thought about lag screwing into the support posts with 2x10's or 2x12's to attach the I-joists to. The I-Joists will run the 20 ft length. I plan on putting a ceiling of maybe 3/8" and attaching light fixtures to it. Plus I want to put at least a partial flooring above for storing excess lumber materials. Was figuring on 1/2" floor decking. I don't anticipate a lot of excess lumber materials; only will have about 4 1/2 ft of head room in this space. Current design plans call for running stairs up from inside the workshop area. Also, I plan on insulating the entire ceiling area whether there is a floor above or not.

Can you provide any information please on the size of the I-Joists I would need? And, can I use regular joist hangers to attach [1] the I-Joists to the rim board (2x10 or 2x12); [2] what type of extra support would be needed to attach the stair stringer to an I-Joist' [3] if I manufacture my own, what size top & bottom of the I-joist would be needed?

Thank you very much in advance for your assistance.


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