Deicing Salt and Concrete
DEAR TIM: Ice and snow cause big problems where I live. My sidewalks, driveway and concrete and wood steps get slippery. Is it safe to use deicing salts on concrete, asphalt and wood surfaces? I have been told that deicing salts can cause severe damage to concrete. Are there safer salts that work differently than others? What about using fertilizer as a deicer and traction aid? Jenny L., Lewiston, ME
DEAR JENNY: Deicing salts can cause severe damage to concrete that has not been formulated, mixed, installed and finished properly. That is a fact. The good news is that it is easy to install concrete so that deicing salts can be used with confidence knowing that little or no damage will occur over the years. If you come to my city, I can show you city sidewalks and roadways that have had repeated treatments of deicing salts for years. These strong concrete surfaces have experienced none of the spalling or surface erosion that you have heard about.
Concrete that contains small air bubbles (air entrained), a minimum of 564 pounds of cement (6 bag mix) per cubic yard and a minimum amount of water when mixed (4 inch slump) can resist repeated episodes of ice expansion within the concrete. In addition, the concrete must be moist cured at or above 50 F for a minimum of seven days, produce a 28 day strength of 4,000 pounds per square inch and have a minimum drying time of 30 days before it is subjected to the first freeze-thaw cycle. These practices are commonly followed by experienced, professional concrete masons.
Deicing salts rarely cause problems on wood surfaces and asphalt. What little damage they may cause is far outweighed by the benefits of preventing personal injury as a result of a fall on some ice.
There are four primary deicing salts. All have different characteristics. The most common deicing salt is regular rock salt or sodium chloride. It is widely available and can melt snow and ice until the temperature drops to between 16 and 20 F. Below these temperatures the rock salt stops melting snow and ice. Rock salt also releases the highest amount of chloride ions when it dissolves. Chloride can pollute streams, rivers and lakes. The chloride also causes metal to corrode.
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Calcium chloride is another deicing salt. Many people have seen these small rounded white pellets. It can continue to melt snow and ice as temperatures fall well below 0 F. It can cause skin irritation if your hands are moist when using it. Concentrations of calcium chloride can chemically attack concrete.
Potassium chloride is a deicing salt that available in some markets. It is not a skin irritant and does not harm vegetation. It only melts ice when the air temperature is above 15 F, but when combined with other chemicals it can melt ice at lower temperatures.
The newest deicing salt is magnesium chloride. It continues to melt snow and ice until the temperature reaches -13 F. In the photo, the air temperature was 0 F. The magnesium chloride melted through a 1/2 inch thick layer of ice in just 10 minutes. This salt releases about 40 percent less chlorides into the environment than either rock salt or calcium chloride. It is also less damaging to concrete surfaces of questionable or unknown quality. Magnesium chloride is less toxic to plants, trees and shrubs (see Author's Note at the bottom of this column). It also does not leave a powder residue when tracked into your home.
Avoid the use of fertilizers as deicing and traction agents. Those that contain ammonium nitrate and ammonium sulfate can rapidly disintegrate concrete. Don't take a chance if you don't know what is in the fertilizer. If you don't have salts available use sand to stop you from slipping and sliding.
Author's Note: In 2001, the USDA published an article entitled "Magnesium Chloride as a De-Icing Agent" that stated magnesium chloride led to "corrosion of steel and aluminum poles and pole hardware." Although used as an effective deicer, updated evidence after the publishing of this article on AsktheBuilder.com shows it can lead to harm of electric utilities. The article can be read here.
Also, a February 2003, Board of Montana Flathead County Commissioners minutes document called "Magnesium Chloride on Roads" on Corrosion-Doctors.org attests to magnesium chloride's corrosiveness on aluminum and steel. In a corrosion comparison done by Colorado D.O.T. and the University of Colorado, it was found that "road salt is more corrosive to the metals than mag chloride on a one time exposure." However, magnesium chloride corrodes over longer periods of time, and Greg Fulton, president of the Colorado Motor Carriers Association, said it corroded aluminum on his vehicles as well as led to wiring failure. This document can be read here.
Related Articles: Deicing Facts, Guidelines for Strong Concrete, Magnesium Chloride & Deicing Salt Companies
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Steve Benjamin 29 Dec 2007, 19:55
After thoroughly digesting your articles regarding concrete, I will likely
require my contractor to use minimum 4500 psi and 4 inch slump mixture
without the addition of any water for my foundation. Will this requirement
create any hardships or obstacles if the mixture is to be delivered via
pump truck? I am specifically asking because I anticipate the contractor
stating that slump is too thick or additional water needs to be added. Your
insight is greatly appreciated.
AsktheBuilder 30 Dec 2007, 06:41
Steve,
You don't need those specifications for vertical foundation walls!!!!! Those columns are about flat or horizontal slabs. If you want foundation walls that will stand the test of time, then spend your money on both horizontal and vertical reinforcing steel! Read all of my past columns about that.
Steve T. 30 Dec 2007, 12:45
I had a new colored & stamped concrete patio installed last year. The
sealant was not gritty and has caused it to be extremely slippery under wet
conditions. What can I use to melt the ice without damaging the color of
the concrete? I plan to have the sealant removed in the spring and
reapplied with additional grit but until then, I need to minimize the slip
factor. Appreciate your advice....
Steve T. 30 Dec 2007, 12:55
Is it possible to apply a concrete sealer over a patio that has already
been sealed? If I can avoid having the existing sealant removed, it would
help to offset the cost of resealing it. Thanks...
AsktheBuilder 30 Dec 2007, 14:27
Steve,
Salt should not harm the patio. The new sealer will tell you what must be done prior to application.
Ryan Stegman 02 Jan 2008, 23:22
I'm glad to have found your article, as I have used rock salt in the past
couple years, and while there was minimal damage to the hill portion of my
driveway, my flat parking pad area is moderately pock-marked now, where it
had been smooth before. In researching the best de-icing agent to use, I
discovered another product that you didn't mention, and I wanted to get
your opinion on it. It's called IceClear, and the stats on it are off the
charts. It claims to be less corrosive than distilled water (the zero
point on the corrosion chart), whereas sodium chloride is 100 on the
corrosion chart. It also claims to be more effective per volume in ice
melting ability. The only drawback is the price ($12-$19 per gallon). The
stat sheet that gave me the most info was found here (googling "iceclear"
will also give you info):
www.montereylawngarden.com/pdf/iceclear_tech_sheet.pdf
Any info/feedback you could provide about this product would be appreciated!
AsktheBuilder 03 Jan 2008, 07:58
Ryan,
I think all of my past columns about deicing salts say what you need to hear. Concrete that was put in correctly - and there are many factors - is not harmed by any deicing salt. If your concrete is suspect, then avoid using any salt and rely on snow removal and sand.
Ryan Stegman 03 Jan 2008, 10:24
Tim,
I do believe that my concrete in my driveway is suspect, and that is why I have been investigating other options, and when i stumbled upon IceClear, it sounded too good to be true (no corrosion, better ice-melting ability). That's why I'm trying to solicit opinions on it from people not selling it...to see if it is, in fact, a legit product. I assume by your response that you have either never heard of IceClear, or have no opinion on it, but if you look into it, or find anything out about it (good or bad), I would really appreciate any info about this product in particular. (I think it would also be helpful to others with suspect concrete.) Thanks.
AsktheBuilder 03 Jan 2008, 19:13
Ryan,
I can tell you that Al Gore is not going to be happy if you buy it........ Did you read that it produces CO2 as it degrades? This product is just the stuff used at airports. If you can afford it and don't mind making all the rest of us get warmer, then buy some. Just joking about the GW stuff........ Ask me about continental glaciation some time over a vodka and tonic.
Mike Bowles 22 Jan 2008, 10:30
OK-So I bouught this new place with a new concrete driveway. I have used
salt (NaCl) and now have a pock marked driveway. What can I do to repair,
seal, and prevent the same problem in the future?
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