Bathroom Remodeling Sequence
Summary: Remodeling a room calls for specific tasks to be completed before the next begins. Schedule the tasks in order for a smooth running project.
DEAR TIM: I'm adding a bathroom in my house. The framing is complete and I am a little confused as to the order of the rest of the tasks. When do I install the plumbing pipes? Do I tile before or after the tub is installed? When are the vanity and the toilet installed? When do I drywall? Mark O., Chicago, IL
DEAR MARK: Adding a bathroom is tough enough, but the job can be even harder if you goof up the sequence of events from start to finish. Not only can you make things more difficult, there is a chance of ruining completed work that is already in place. As you might expect, there is a logical order that professionals follow to maximize profits and minimize the amount of time spent working.
For example, a toilet must be centered in a space no less than 30 inches wide. The actual space can be larger, but in no instance can another fixture be closer than 15 inches from the centerline of the toilet. The minimum distance from the front edge of the toilet bowl to the wall you face while resting on the toilet must be 18 inches or 24 inches depending upon your local code. This same minimum distance requirement applies to the front edge of the sink countertop as well. Always check your local codes as you create your plans. Apply for your building permit as soon as your plans are complete.
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If the floor to this new bathroom is constructed with wood floors joists and a wood sub-floor, the walls should be constructed before plumbing drain lines are installed. The opposite is true if the bathroom will be located on a concrete floor. In this case, all below floor drain lines need to be installed first. Triple check the pipe placement before you pour the new concrete floor. Keep in mind that some states and local governments only allow licensed plumbers to install drain and water supply pipes. Check your building department to see if you are permitted to do your own plumbing work.
The day after the concrete is poured, the walls can be framed. Keep in mind the location of the tub and shower faucet. The center line of the tub or shower should be the center of the space between two wall studs on this wall. This allows you to install the faucet without cutting a wall stud. When all of the walls and ceiling studs are in place, install the remaining above grade plumbing drain lines and vent pipes. It is now time to install the tub or shower. After the tub is in place, keep it covered with heavy drop cloths to prevent scratches and nicks. With the tub in place, complete the installation of all of the water supply lines.
The next step is to rough in any heating and cooling ducts, heat piping, and ventilation piping for fans. Once this is complete, install all of the rough electrical wiring. Make sure that wall mounted light fixtures do not interfere with medicine cabinets, mirrors, or side walls. Insulate all exterior walls for energy savings and consider insulating all interior walls for sound control. It is a great idea to pack insulation around the underside of the tub as well. This will keep bath water nice and warm for extended periods of time.
It is now time to install cement board on any walls around the tub that will be covered with ceramic tile. Consider installing moisture resistant drywall on all walls. Regular drywall can be used for the ceiling. Finish and sand the drywall. If you have a wood floor system, it is now time to install cement board on the floor. The tile in the tub and shower area should be installed and finished first. Follow that with the floor tile. Tile the entire floor in case someone decides to install a pedestal sink. When the floor tile grout is dry, install the bathroom door and trim. Consider painting the room at this point. After the paint is dry, carefully install the toilet and sink. Cover the floor with drop cloths during this process to avoid hurting the new tile. Complete the job by installing mirrors, towel bars, and accessories.
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Comments:
Nancy Murbach 07 Jan 2008, 11:26
Hi Tim,
Great help here! I am renovating my only bathroom and was looking for help in the order of projects. Found this great page. However, I cannot find at which point the rough plumbing is prepared for shower/bath fixtures. Is there a standard depth when one is using cement board and tile or are the pipes adjusted after this is installed? Thanks so much! Nancy
AsktheBuilder 07 Jan 2008, 11:50
Nancy,
The rough plumbing is installed after all of the HVAC work is completed but before the electric work. You bet your shower faucets must be installed at the right depth. READ the instructions that come with them.....
Nancy Murbach 07 Jan 2008, 12:25
Thanks so much. The old fixtures have already been cut out and the water
lines capped. I've got the electricians coming to run the line down for
the Jacuzzi motor and pump. If I'm understanding the sequence, the next
step would be to choose and purchase the tub/shower fixtures before the tub
is installed. Then choose the tile before the cement board is installed,
install cement board, tile and install fixtures. Correct? Thanks so much
for your help. This is a wonderful site!
AsktheBuilder 07 Jan 2008, 16:38
Nancy,
You are one quick study! Correct!!!
Andrew Stevens 17 Jan 2008, 09:52
With the rough in plumbing already completed, will adding backerboard and
ceramic tile to the floor affect hole used for the toilet drain? If so how
can I fix the change in floor height?
AsktheBuilder 18 Jan 2008, 06:27
Andrew,
Probably........ The toilet flange is supposed to sit tightly on top of the finished floor. Do what is needed to make that happen.
Kevin Assmus 21 Mar 2008, 22:30
In the case of an apron framed in around a corner jetted tub. Would I cover
the top and front with plywood and backerboard before tiling?
AsktheBuilder 22 Mar 2008, 08:22
Kevin,
That sounds like it would work.
Tina 07 Jul 2008, 22:49
I have figured out the order tile, then add fixtures however, with the
tiling how does the order go? You tile, grout fixtures then seal or is it
tile, grout, seal then fixtures?
steve 13 Nov 2008, 12:32
I am tiling the bathroom walls in addition to the bath surround.
Which do I tile first - the walls or the floor? View all comments |



