Sewer Lines and Tree Roots
DEAR TIM: The sewer line in my house recently backed up. The plumber who cleaned out the line discovered that tree roots were the problem. I have seen products that you flush down the toilet to solve this problem. Are they effective? Is there a better, more long term solution? I really don't have the money to install a new sewer line. Chuck S., St. Cloud, MN
DEAR CHUCK: Tree roots in sewer lines are probably one of the top ten plumbing problems, especially in older homes. Mother Nature has equipped many trees with sophisticated sensing capabilities. The trees send out feeder roots in all directions in a search for both nutrients and water. The trenches that contain sewer lines rarely contained compacted soil. Roots are naturally drawn to this disturbed soil.
The root control/elimination products that flush down a toilet do little to solve the problem in my opinion. Water flow in a typical sewer pipe only fills a small percentage of the bottom cross section of the pipe. The chemicals often only burn those portions of the roots that actually contact the water flow. Some of the chemicals are drawn into the root system but not enough, in my past experience, to completely wipe out the roots. The tree continues to grow and send roots out to take advantage of the underground oasis.
I have solved this problem for customers and at an old house I used to own. Your best chances of success will happen if you can find a company that sends a small camera into the sewer line. By looking at a video monitor, the best camera operators can pinpoint the exact location outside where the roots are entering the pipe. What's more, with electronic sensing equipment the professional can tell you the depth of the sewer pipe below the surface of the ground at this location. Armed with this data, you can permanently solve the problem.
Using a simple earth auger or large drill, you will drill a vertical hole down towards the sewer pipe. A 2.5 inch diameter hole works best as it provides plenty of room to insert a standard schedule 40 1.5 inch PVC pipe into the hole. Stop drilling when the hole is about 24 to 30 inches above the top of the sewer pipe. Slide the pipe into the hole and glue a threaded female adapter equipped with a plug onto the end of the pipe at the surface. Make sure this is flush with the soil so that lawn mowers do not cut it off.
If you can't find a company with a sewer camera, use municipal sewer records to locate your sewer tap and try to estimate where the sewer line might be. Insert a number of PVC pipes in your yard hoping that you spot them above and near the sewer line.
Pour copper sulfate crystals into the pipe. Try to fill the pipe halfway with these crystals. You can buy them at many plumbing supply houses, feed mill centers, and or old hardware stores. Some home centers may carry them. Immediately pour hot water into the pipe until it flows out the top. The hot water will begin to dissolve the copper sulfate and then this solution will begin to seep into the soil above and around the sewer pipe. Tree roots do not like soil that has been treated with copper sulfate and they will avoid it completely. Add crystals as needed and pour hot water into the pipe every four months or so to stop those pesky sewer backups!
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Teresa 29 Sep 2008, 10:19
What do you do for sewer lines that are under the street with tree roots
in them? I have PVC pipe for the lines on my property but where it runs
into the city property (under the street) is where the clogs always are.
The city claims it is my responsibility to repair the lines that are on their property. I can't install verticle tubes to pour things into if it's a road. Help !!!
Steve Wilson 13 Oct 2008, 11:54
Tim, I don't fully understand your comment about stopping the drilling when
the hole is about 24" to 30" from the sewer line. If my sewer line is 36"
below ground,
then this means I only drill 6" - 12" deep??
Mark Sanchez 28 Oct 2008, 22:46
Trying to locate sewer line,city does not have records to old 1951,any
sugestions on locating without costing to much money.Want to put a bathroom
out back in garage. Thank you. Mark
Wendell jackson 28 Jan 2009, 10:48
What do you do for sewer lines that are under the street with tree roots in
them? The problem is where the city property (under the street) is where
the clogs always are.
The city claims it is my responsibility to repair the lines that are on their property. I can't install verticle tubes to pour things into if it's a concrete road. Can you please help.
Carl Samson 27 May 2009, 08:44
Hi Tim.
Thanks for the wonderful column. Where does one get a "hand powered earth auger?" Local rental shops around Cincinnati seem baffled. Thanks, Carl
Hollie Davis 20 Sep 2009, 23:41
Hello, I am so glad that this site is available! Thank you! We have
inherited a HUGE PROBLEM, someone planted bamboo in the side yard of our
home about 40 years ago and there is also a 40' Magnolia tree there also.
The problem that has come up is a back up in the main line leading from the
house to the street! The plumber snaked the pipe out 150' to the street,
after 2 attempts and the loss of 2 heads on this beast a "k250" or
something, he was able to get through, what should I do to keep this from
happening again, I have killed 90% of the bamboo, I just don't want to have
the main line back up again into my basement! This was the worst mess I
have ever been through in my 51 years of life...any suggestions on how to
STOP this from happening ever again?!?
Hollie
Guido 28 Apr 2010, 17:58
Hi Hollie,
I had the same problem. first thing I would do is get rid of the bamboo. It will eventually find your pipes again. Sounds like you live in a PM area like me. (preventative maintenance area) The city contractor that eventually came to my house said to use a root killer straight down the main sewer every six months. Don't use it down your toilet because of the Copper Sulfate that could damage your inside pipes.
Marcia Ames 22 Nov 2010, 20:07
Please don't use copper based root products in your sewer pipe. Copper
that passes through the wastewater treatment plant is very toxic to fish
and other aquatic life. Remove troublesome trees and shrubs. Use foaming
root products sparingly, and only use copper sulfate on the exterior of the
pipe. Replace old sewers, especially clay, with plastic pipe.
Thanks!
Linda Madsen 04 Apr 2011, 13:19
We have had a lot of trouble with our drains that has cost us a lot of
money that most people these days don't have, and this problem is caused
from the tree roots in front of our house that is owned by the city. and
now people on both sides of us are having the same problems, cause by our
tree roots. I would like to hear from who ever deals with this matter
regarding tree roots that cause this problem. I feel that the problem is
not going to be resolve in til someone looks into this more further. Thank
you.
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