Drywall Over Paneling

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By Tim Carter
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Summary: Putting drywall over thin wood paneling may cause the new wall to jut beyond door and window jambs. Consider alternatives such as painting wood paneling or filling in the seams with spackle. If you still want drywall, adjustments to the jambs should be made after the drywall is installed.

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DEAR TIM: My wife and I bought a 35-year old home that has thin wood paneling in several rooms. We don't like the paneling and want to drywall the rooms, but the paneling is so much thinner than regular drywall. If I install drywall, it will stick out past the door and window jambs. What can we do to solve this problem? To add insult to injury, the height from the floor to the ceiling is 8 feet 8 inches. Should we cut 10 foot long pieces to fit and install them vertically? Jeremy S., Green Bay, WI

DEAR JEREMY: I'll bet you were perplexed when you pulled off that first piece of paneling to see how thin it was. I remember that happening to me many years ago. The great news is that you have several options and I urge you to stop removing paneling immediately until you test one of my ideas.

Look at the window jamb and notice how it is recessed from the face of the added drywall. The natural-colored wood strip with the finish nail has been added to extend the window jamb so it is flush with the drywall. The wood strip would normally continue all the way down to the window sill but was left short for this photo to illustrate why it needs to be added in the first place. PHOTO BY: Tim Carter
Look at the window jamb and notice how it is recessed from the face of the added drywall. The natural-colored wood strip with the finish nail has been added to extend the window jamb so it is flush with the drywall. The wood strip would normally continue all the way down to the window sill but was left short for this photo to illustrate why it needs to be added in the first place. PHOTO BY: Tim Carter
As crazy as this sounds I want you to clean one wall of the paneling with soap and water and rinse it with clear water. Be sure the paneling is free of any wax or polish. Use an oil-based primer and paint the paneling. The paint can label will tell you how soon you can apply the finish coat of paint. Follow those directions. I then want you to move some of the furniture up to this wall and hang one or two pictures. You may be shocked at how good the wall actually looks. The vertical lines in the paneling can add character and depth to the otherwise flat surface you will get when you drywall.

If the vertical lines in the paneling bother you or your wife, you can also fill them with spackling compound. It may take several attempts to get the cracks filled so they are perfectly even with the paneling, but it is far less time than you will spend installing and finishing the new drywall. If you do this method, you must prime the paneling with a special primer/sealer that will take care of both the texture difference between the smooth paneling and coarse spackling and the vast porosity differences between the two materials. If you do not use this special primer/sealer, you may see the vertical lines even after the finish paint is applied.

If you and your wife are stuck on drywall, then you need to choose the thickness you want and make adjustments to the jambs at each door and window after the drywall is installed. I would use drywall that is at least one-half inch thick and would seriously consider using 5/8 inch drywall on walls and ceilings where I want sound transmission to be minimal. Thicker drywall helps soundproof rooms.

There is another distinct advantage to using one-half or 5/8 inch drywall. Both of these sizes are commonly available in stretch boards that are 54 inches wide instead of the normal 48 inch width. These wider sheets will allow you to install the drywall horizontally since your ceiling is higher than 8 feet. Using the wider sized drywall allows you to have one continuous tapered seam all the way around the room. There will be no need for the small troublesome ripper strip that would have been only 7 or 8 inches wide.


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Check out how great this painted paneling looks!  The entire room was painted in half a day. It would take days to add drywall and make all of the necessary carpentry changes for the drywall to work. PHOTO BY: Kathleen Connick with Tim Carter's camera
Check out how great this painted paneling looks! The entire room was painted in half a day. It would take days to add drywall and make all of the necessary carpentry changes for the drywall to work. PHOTO BY: Kathleen Connick with Tim Carter's camera
Once the drywall is installed, you will need to add small pieces of finish lumber at all window and door jambs. White pine, poplar or other fine-grained lumber can be used with great success to make these small extension jambs. Try to make sure the added lumber sticks about 1/32nd of an inch past the finished surface of the drywall. This very slight offset will help you as you start to reinstall the exiting or new woodwork around each window and door.

You also need to be very observant around all electrical boxes. The electrical code is very specific about the distance between the edge of electrical boxes and the finished wall surface. The safest approach is to have the front edge of the electrical box flush with the finished surface of the wall. But the code understands this can be tough to achieve and typically the maximum distance the box edge can be away from the finished wall is only 1/4 inch. But check with your local code authorities for the exact distance. If you plan to exceed this distance, you must either move the boxes so they comply with the code or you must add code-compliant extension rings. This is a very small detail, but an extremely important one.

The extension jambs can cause small headaches around doors that pivot on traditional hinges. When a standard swing door is hung properly, the hinge is set so the door can swing back on itself and open a full 180 degrees. But if you start to bring the finished wall surface out from the pivot point, the door starts to hit the wall before it opens 180 degrees. Usually you have to have the wall sticking out from the pivot point more than one-half inch for this to be a big problem.

As for painting paneling, you would be shocked how well it can look. A close friend of mine did this in her study and the look was stunning. The paneling in this room actually had a hand-hewn texture in addition to the vertical lines. Once the flat paint was applied to the paneling, the wall surface look much better than adjacent rooms that had smooth plaster. I was amazed at how nice the painted paneling looked.





Comments:

William
22 Nov 2007, 23:47
I have paneling that is 8'tall with a drop ceiling, but the real hight of the room is 9' and the last foot is the old horsehair plaster. I want to remove the drop ceiling and make the top foot match the texture of what I hope to be painted paneling (with the lines removed)IS plaster on the top foot the best way to get a match?
Darren
07 Feb 2008, 15:38
In your article you mention a special sealer/primer to use when painting over wood paneling. Can you give me an example of what I should be looking for?
Thanks!
James
13 Mar 2008, 09:23
I have a 1925 Craftsman with a finished attic. However, the attic has paneling walls and ceilings - thick wood paneling. Previous owner simply tried taping the seams with drywall tape, then spray textured all the surfaces and painted. There is no insulation, so over the years the taped seams have cracked and I have lines of cracks everywhere. I'll be putting the house on the market in a couple months, so I'm looking for affordable, yet effective solutions to my dilemma. I was thinking of putting 1/4 sheet rock up to cover, but now wondering what other options I have for fixing the cracking. One option I'm considering is simply cleaning off the texture and tape, wiping/sanding everything clean, leaving the bare wood exposed, and just paint it white. This would give it an old fashioned "cottage" feel. Will cleaning the walls be easier/cheaper than other alternatives?
AsktheBuilder
15 Mar 2008, 07:16
James,
I like your idea. Do it and tell us how it turned out.
Heather
27 Mar 2008, 15:38
I have a wall in my kitchen that is thick, wood tongue-in-groove paneling from the 50's. It extends all the way down behind the base cabinets so I don't want to tear out the entire wall to install new drywall. What I am thinking I will do is prime the wood, fill the grooves with joint compound, prime it, and then cover everything will thick wallpaper liner. Then paint it. I'm hoping it will look like regular drywall. Does this sound like it will work? What kind of primers should I use?

thanks!
AsktheBuilder
29 Mar 2008, 05:31
Heather,
Did you look closely at the photo in this column? You may love the way the painted paneling looks! Try that before filling in the grooves. Just paint ten square feet near the cabinets to see how you like it. You could save yourself hours of labor.
Lynn
19 Jul 2008, 10:24
I am wondering about the special primer/sealer your refer to in your article to prime/seal spackle and panelling. Please give an example. Also, Heather if you tried your idea I am wondering how did it turn out?

Thanks
Sara
18 Oct 2008, 14:17
Tim,

Several people have asked you what kind of primer to use if they want to fill the grooves with joint compound. Why won't you tell us?
brian
04 Jan 2009, 09:34
in reading the article about painting paneling versus drywalling i have a question is it ok to tape the corners as you would installing drywall or should a wire mesh be used to acheive filling in gaps in the corners and edges
lukas
08 Jan 2009, 06:58
Is it possible to install drywall directly over the already existing drywall surface, even if the old wall is full of bulges/cracks? To add insulating board would be taking to much room up in the old house! The walls are insulated well so just making it look good is the problem!
Thanks

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