Manufactured Stone Installation

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Summary:

Manufactured stone is a revolutionary material. It is made from concrete and special colored pigments. But to ensure it stays on a wall permanently, the stone mason who installs it needs to make sure they mix the stucco just right. It also helps to use a little cement paint as an extra bonding agent.

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DEAR TIM: Soon I am supposed to have some manufactured stone installed on my house. But I must say I am a little concerned. A new house in my subdivision had it installed recently and after three months, 10 percent of the stones have popped off the wall. That makes me think the product is defective. Should I change to a different material? What do you think happened? Roger P. Kansas City, MO

DEAR ROGER: The popular manufactured stone materials are almost all Portland cement based products. The best and most good looking stones are highly sophisticated poured concrete products that are made using special molds and high-quality long-lasting permanent pigments. Even lower quality manufactured stone is still simply a mixture of sand, small stones, cement and pigments. As for defective product, I would only suspect this if the actual stones themselves were soft and crumbled easily.

The stone mason is working with wet mortar and buttered the piece of stone well before he pressed it in place. PHOTO CREDIT: Tim Carter
The stone mason is working with wet mortar and buttered the piece of stone well before he pressed it in place. PHOTO CREDIT: Tim Carter
If we had video tape footage of the workers installing your neighbor's stone and some past weather data, I suspect we would quickly discover what went wrong. My instincts tell me the error was 99 percent workmanship related, not product failure.

Manufactured stone is glued onto the vertical surface of a home as opposed to natural stone which is set on top of one another. Traditional stone is stacked and gravity pushes down on each stone. Manufactured stone is typically adhered to a wall surface with a cement stucco mixture that is often very rich in Portland cement.

The process of installing manufactured stone is not too different from the way traditional cement stucco is applied to the side walls of a home. With traditional stucco, several layers of wet stucco are applied and troweled to the desired finish. The wet stucco is a mixture of sand, Portland cement and sometimes other ingredients such as lime or latex modifiers. Once dry, the stucco is as hard as rock. With manufactured stone, the hardening process happens at the factory instead of the jobsite. The mason simply uses a stucco mixture to glue the manufactured stones to the house.

In your neighbor's case, any number of things could have gone wrong. The stucco mixture the contractor was using may have been mixed wrong. It might have had too little Portland cement in it. The stucco mix could have sat around the jobsite too long after being mixed. It could have started to harden on the mortar boards. If the contractor then tried to breathe life in this spent stucco mix by retempering it with water, this would have made a very weak bonding stucco.

The wall surface onto which the stones were set could have been dusty. The actual manufactured stones could have been dusty, too hot or too dry. It often helps if the back surface of the stones is slightly damp when the stucco mix is applied. If the stones are too hot and dry, they can suction too much water from the stucco mix too quickly. If this happens, the stucco mix never achieves its design strength.

I can tell you for a fact that if the manufactured stone is applied per the manufacturer's instructions, it should stay on the side of your house for many years. If done right, I can see no reason why it couldn't last for hundreds of years. Cement stucco that is properly mixed and applied can last for hundreds of years with ease. Keep in mind that the stucco mix used with manufactured stone is hidden for the most part from the harsh weather elements. The manufactured stone takes the brunt of the wear from the weather. If your contractor takes the time to mix the stucco correctly and apply it while it is fresh, you should have no problems whatsoever.

If you really want the manufactured stone to stick to a home like epoxy, you can add one small step to the process. Typically the stone is applied to a surface that already has a layer of rough cement stucco or it can even be a concrete block wall.

Once all materials are set up and the stucco is mixed, mix a batch of Portland cement paint. This is simply Portland cement powder mixed with pure water until it is the consistency of thin gravy. Dampen the surface of the wall slightly and the back of the stone. Use a brush to apply a very thin layer of the cement paint to the wall surface where the stone will be placed and to the back of the stone. Immediately butter the back of the stone with the stucco mixture and place the stone on the wall. Hold the stone in place for 10 seconds.

The cement paint works because it forms millions of microscopic interlocking crystals between the stone, stucco and wall surface. The stucco creates its own crystals, but the cement paint just adds even more bonding power. The cement paint is simple to apply and will permanently lock the stones into position.



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Welcome! I, Tim Carter, don't answer questions here. If you post a question here in the Comments Area, perhaps another visitor will help you. You need to go to the Ask Tim page if you want a question answered. Once there, look closely at how many weeks behind we are. Please be patient as you use this free service. If you have an emergency and need to talk to me, there is an option there for you.
Dan
26 Nov 2007, 19:39
Hey i'm sticking cultured stone straight onto cinder blocks.
Is there any need for me to add acrylic to my mortar mix?

I live in Vancouver so we can get to minus 5 celsius in winter. At the moment i'm just using a 3 to 1 type S mix.
Thanks.
ATB
26 Nov 2007, 19:47
The better thing in my opinion is to brush on cement paint onto the block immediately before pressing on a stone. Type "cement paint" into the search box at the top of this page to read all about this fantastic trick used by master masons years ago! Be sure to use the quotation marks in the search.
chris hebert
28 Dec 2007, 14:11
Recently a home inspector claimed that our cultured stone was improperly installed on our new condo due to efflouresence on the stone. The builder's supplier said it was due to the cold, wet weather we were having. The stone goes down to grade and the inspector said this is causing wicking of moister up into the stone. Holding the stone 6" above ground would be unsightly. The inspector put a probe between the top of the foundation and the drywall up against the pressure treated sill plate which measured a 40% moisture content. He indicated that this again was a result of the wicking of the cultured stone. This is hard to believe given there is stucco and Tyvec between the stone and the plywood sheeting. I consulted a different home inspector that who indicated the high moisture content of the sill plate is not unusual for a brand new home and doubts that this is a result of poor design and stone installation. I would be interested in your comments.
Thank you.
AsktheBuilder
28 Dec 2007, 14:25
Chris,
My comment is simple: Read my past columns on efflorescence. Yes, there can be wicking, but my guess it is minimal. Think of the millions of poured-concrete foundations in contact with the soil - just like my own! These do not wick moisture up into my framing.
Dan
11 Feb 2008, 11:24
I am thinking about doing cultured stone on a interior wall. Why can't I use tile mastic to stick the stone to the drywall and then grout the joints? Just like tile!!
AsktheBuilder
11 Feb 2008, 14:30
Dan,
You are asking the wrong person. Contact the manufacturers and ask them.......
Robin
12 Feb 2008, 17:22
I have a manufactured stone fireplace--both inside and out. One installer says it needs to be sealed and another says it doesn't. Which is it??
Also, what is the best way to get an oil spot out of the stone?
AsktheBuilder
14 Feb 2008, 16:14
Robin,
The sealer should be okay, but I would call the stone manufacturer to see if they recommend it. Did you try soap and water on the oil stain? Be careful about scrubbing!!! It could harm the finish on the stone.
Ron Handley
05 Mar 2008, 17:26
What is the proper way to install the metal lath to the wall. Is there an up or down, Front or back ?
AsktheBuilder
09 Mar 2008, 09:59
Ron,
Great question! There is an up and a down. Look at the mesh. You will notice that the knockouts are angled. You want the mesh installed so that the stucco locks in like a french cleat. Go read that column and watch my video here at my website. Type "french cleat" into the search engine at the top of this page.

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