Sewer Gas Smell
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DEAR TIM: My daughter's house has a chronic sewer gas odor problem. The odor is strong when it rains and the furnace or air conditioner is operating. The odor gets so bad my daughter and her family evacuate the house. Three plumbers have not been able to solve the problem and we have checked all plumbing fixture traps, caulked where the basement floor meets the foundation, etc. My daughter is ready to sell the house for a loss. Can you help? Dave S., Shelby Township., MI
DEAR DAVE: Sewer gas can be a vexing problem to solve, but it is by no means impossible. As much as I hate to say it, the three plumbers that were consulted are either inexperienced or they do not keep up with technology. The good news is I doubt your daughter has to move and take a loss. It is my guess the source of the odor can be found and repaired for less than what a moving company would charge just to move your daughter and her family.
Plumbing drainage systems are designed to keep this sewer gas inside the pipes and any that does exit to the atmosphere happens outside the home through the vent pipes that poke up through the roofs of houses. These vent pipes on the roof are actually intake vents, not exhaust vents as most people believe. When a large volume of water enters a plumbing drain pipe it pushes air in front of it towards the sewer or septic tank. This air must be replaced and it is sucked into the plumbing system through the roof vents.
The source of the sewer gas can be plumbing fixtures whose traps have gone dry or have lost enough water that the water seal within the trap has broken. You would be surprised to discover that water can rapidly evaporate from toilets and the traps below tubs, floor drains and just about any fixture within a few months. In fact when my daughter is away at college I have to flush the toilet in her bathroom every three weeks to keep the bowl filled with water. If I don't keep the toilet seat down, I have to flush the toilet weekly as some household pets seem to love to drink water from clean toilet bowls.
Cracks in either plumbing drain lines or vents pipes are the other source of sewer gas leaks. If the crack is in a drain line, you often see an associated water leak. But vent pipe cracks are far more elusive. They can leak vast amounts of sewer gas and you might not be able to locate the source easily without a special machine. The furnace and air conditioner clue tells me the leak might be in a vent pipe that is close to a return air duct. The leaking sewer gas is being sucked into the return air system and then broadcast throughout the entire house by the air handler in the furnace.
Sewer gas leaks can be quickly discovered by a plumber who owns a very cool machine that generates artificial smoke. The smoke is simply visual and does not create a lasting odor nor does it stain any surfaces in a house. The plumber connects the smoke generation machine to the plumbing drain system and then blocks off the drain pipe leading to the sewer and caps off all roof vent pipes.
Once the smoke machine starts, it begins to slightly pressurize the plumbing system. If there is a cracked pipe or a fitting joint that is loose, the smoke readily exits at that point before it would bubble up through a fixture trap filled with water. Usually the source of the sewer gas leak can be discovered in less than one hour.
Sewer gas problems can also be caused by plumbing vent pipes that are clogged. This can happen in old homes where a cast iron vent pipe gets clogged by years of rust scale that falls off the inside of the pipe and clogs a 90 degree bend in the pipe.
Tennis balls, leaves, and all sorts of other debris can clog plumbing vent pipes. When a vent pipe is clogged, the replacement air needed by the system will get sucked into the pipes through a fixture inside the house. When a large amount of water is placed into the drain pipes by a toilet or a powerful washing machine pump, it can readily suck the water out of a nearby bath tub trap or even a kitchen sink trap. Once this happens, sewer gas immediately enters the room through the dry fixture trap.
To slow evaporation from fixture traps that are not used on a frequent basis, fill them with water and then slowly pour four ounces of mineral oil into the fixture or floor drain. This mineral oil will evaporate far more slowly than water and the trap will remain wet for many months.
Author's Notes:
I received these emails after my column was printed."Tim:
In regard to the sewer odor problem in Shelby township Michigan: If they have a sump pump in the basement and have a french drain around the perimeter of the house, there could very easily be a broken sewer pipe right outside the basement wall. When it rains, tainted water gets in the drain, goes to the sump, odor is in basement, return air to the furnace distributes odor throughout house.
Enjoy your column in the Telegraph Herald."
Dave B., Dyersville
"Hi Tim:
My name is Gary Whiteman of Whiteman Land Service, Curtice, OH. We do pond construction and new home site development.
I read your article in the Toledo Blade, Dec. 18 and noticed that there was no mention of possible sewer gas from homes that have a leach field system. We have had many people complain of sewer gases from their basements. We have found that the cause was due to other contractors who did not remove previous farm drainage tile from under the leach field area and to the home foundation or basement.
Thus, the waste water travels through the farm tile under the leach bed to the drainage tile around the footer and into the sump crock inside the basement. To solve this would be to remove the farm tile between the leachfield and home.
Contractors excavating for the basement or foundation, and also the leach field, should remove these tiles at least twenty-five to thirty feet away from the home area. I hope this info will be helpful.
Regards,"
Gary
"Dear Tim,
We had a perplexing sewer gas odor in our home. After spending over $3,000 in fees with plumbers, locators and other experts, we still had no answer.
Finally a very knowledgeable plumber discovered an illegal connection in our drain system. The person who installed the condensate drain line from our air conditioner installed it without a vent line. Each time our washing machine would pump water into the drain system, the rush of water would siphon out the water in the small trap of the condensate line.
The sewer gas from the main sewer line would then travel up through the condensate line and into the actual air conditioning air handler. When the air conditioner would run, the moving air would suck vast amounts of sewer gas into the ducts and broadcast it through all of the air vents in our home.
Once the condensate line was disconnected from the drain line and piped directly outdoors, our sewer odor disappeared immediately."
Sandra Farmer, Paradise Valley, AZ
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Bett Church 24 Nov 2007, 21:27
A couple of years ago we had to have a new sptic system installed, as our
old one needed frequent pumping. Before the new system was installed we had
never had a problem with sewer gas. We had new field lines installed as
well as a new tank. Since the new tank was installed we have bouts of sewer
gas that no one seems to be able to help with. We were told by local
plumbers the vent pipes may be stopped up. But we never had a problem
prior to the new tank. We have the most problems when we have very clear
cold,(below 32 degrees) weather. The problem is more obvious during the
winter. We live in the mountains of Western NC. We have bought caps for
the vents and changed the commode seals anything has been worth a try.
Seems the oder is always around the commodes. Please help.
ATB 25 Nov 2007, 05:53
You need to test to see if the vent pipes have a leak. The best way is to
smoke test the system. You may not have anyone near you with this equipment
and experience. The second choice is to do the same test we plumbers must
do to pass a final inspection. You cap off the roof vents and insert a
wiener plug in the building drain just before it exits the house. Make sure
all fixture traps have water in them. Lift the flapper valve slowly in the
lowest toilet. The water should rise in the toilet bowl several inches.
Reseat the flapper valve so the toilet does not overflow. If no leaks in
the system, the water in the bowl will stay at this elevated level for
hours.
Kellie Ann 27 Nov 2007, 12:13
We have a swer smell only in our bathroom when the wind is from the NE.
Lately it is also when we do laundry. Anyone have any suggestions on fixing this smelly problem???? Help!!!
ATB 27 Nov 2007, 12:22
Kellie,
Check to make sure all fixture traps are filled with water. Read *all* of my past plumbing articles about vent pipes and how to search for leaks.
chris in VT 30 Nov 2007, 13:37
Brett,
I have been fighting with the same problem. I also had a new mound system installed in the spring of o6 with no interior sewer gas smell prior. After the system was installed my vent pipes returned to working normal. So normal and good that I had bought a sweet air filter this summer to try and minimize the vent odor outside the house. Just today I went up to the roof and removed he filter and is was frozen solid essentially plugging my vent pipe. Even if you do not have one of these you must get up on the roof, preferrably after a few morning showers in freezing temps. Now I know why these manufacturers of these vents make them black in color..it is to promote daytime melting via sun. If you were to inspect pipe after sunshine late in day your evidence of a blocked vent pipe may have melted away also. Good luck! Chris If you do not catch the blokage at first put a string with a little weight like a fishing line and sinker in the pipe so that it is a couple of feet down. Tie it off outside and the next time you get the bad gas smell go check and if the string will not come out then the blockage is further down than the eye can see.
lance 04 Dec 2007, 00:12
I have a smell of sewer gas that comes out one of my heat vent but not all
the rest of them. My house is on a slab . Thanks for any comments.
AsktheBuilder 04 Dec 2007, 04:56
Sounds like it might be moldy water if the venting ducts are under the
slab. If so, I have another article in my Heating category about water in
ducts.
Toya 04 Dec 2007, 20:32
I have had some sewer smells in my home. 1 plumber said it was the washer
machine drain pipe & the other said the toilet needed to be reset and
caulked (both jobs done within days of each other so can't really say which
one worked) however I don't have the the odor inside the home anymore.
However I have a sewer odor outside my home. It's reaaly bad when its
windy. It's stonger outside my bedroom area. I was wondering could it be
that pipe on the roof blowing the sewer smell or could it be in the soil. I
don't see anything back up in the yard. If i pour bleach in the toilet and
flush the smell goes away for a while but the sewer like smell always
return
AsktheBuilder 05 Dec 2007, 07:15
This is all covered in these comments and the multiple columns here at the
website about this topic. Please reread.
Karen 06 Dec 2007, 08:39
We currently rent an end unit in a triplex (Rowhouse style). The other two
units do not have the same problem.
When we first moved in 6 years ago the sewer line backed up into our basement throught the french drain. At that time the landlord said that it was due to tree roots because the house had not been occupied for 18 months due to remodeling. Then about a 1 1/2 ago it happened again. Wife said the landlord was out of town and she would tell him when he came back in a few days. Do we got an auger, cleaned it out, all is fine. Well it happened again this past weekend. Due to the lack of responde the first time, again we went and rented an auger, finally dislodged the blockage (which my husband and neighbor believe was the cap to the sewer drain). Ocassionally when it rains heavily for multiple days we get water in our coal room. We believe the cap went down the drain as the water receeded, the cap just barely fit, it was not the proper size. Anyway, the water receeded, we threw out our belongs, bleached the floor, but we cannot get rid of the sewer gas smell. The smell is coming from the pipe in the coal room. I have asked my landlord several times now for a solution and have been ignored. Do you have any thoughts? (Other than moving, which we plan to do int he spring) Thanks View all comments |


