Roof Vent
Summary: Continuous ridge vent is just one of the types of roof vents available. Turbine roof vents provide ventilation when the wind blows. Roof vents are needed both in the summer and winter.
DEAR TIM: I need to know which roof vent to install on my home as it is time for a new roof. I am considering a continuous ridge vent, but once hot air reaches the peak of the roof it has to go down several inches to escape the attic. This defies physics and doesn't seem logical. What are the roof-venting options I should be considering as many online resources seem to want to sell something? I would also like a green or responsible choice. Leo K., Concord Township, OH
DEAR LEO: You are not the first person to contact me about the mystery of a typical ridge roof vent. Roof-vent installation was a standard practice for all the years I built, and I routinely installed continuous ridge vent on my jobs. Never did I stop to test the manufacturers' claims, thinking they were accurate.
Several years ago, a friend of mine made the same observation you did. He couldn't understand how hot air could go down through a ridge vent to exit a roof. It seems these vents would work well as the carpenters cut away the top roof sheathing leaving a 3 or 4-inch opening at the highest point in a roof. But then the roofers install the continuous ridge vent and the cover that with shingles. The shingles lap down onto the roof to provide the water seal from falling rain.
The same principal, I believe, works with helium balloons. Let one go in a room with a cathedral ceiling, and it will quickly get trapped at the peak of the roof. It takes effort to pull the balloon away from the ceiling.
This got me to thinking, so I tested the principal at my own home with a stick of incense. On a blistering hot day with no wind outdoors I went into my attic and lit the stick of incense carefully not to set my house on fire. With a flashlight illuminating the wafting smoke, I set the incense stick a few inches below the peak of the roof where the continuous ridge vent was. Instead of seeing the smoke get pulled out of the open pathway, it just collected at the peak of the roof. Barely any of the smoke was pulled outdoors.
This experiment of mine was not completely scientific, but it proved to me the roof vent was not working as I thought it would. I am sure some hot air escapes the vent, but my feeling was that there would be a reverse waterfall of hot air readily and continuously moving through the vent. Such was not the case.
You have numerous roof-venting options. There are traditional mushroom or pot vents, powered roof vent fans, a solar-powered roof vent, a turbine vent, etc. There are all sorts of possibilities as well as mixing and matching different types.
On my own home, I have several types. The static pot vent just covers a 12-inch-diameter hole in the roof. Hot air just floats out of these vents. I also have two solar-powered roof vents. When the sun shines on the solar collectors, a low-voltage fan spins pulling out hot air. I then have a sleek turbine vent that has excellent ball bearings. The slightest breeze sets the turbine in motion sucking hot air from the attic.
Keep in mind that a roof vent is just as important in the winter. In fact, roof ventilation is critical all year. You need a continuous, or nearly continuous flow of air moving through your attic space. This air movement can help to keep your attic cooler if tremendous amounts of air are moving, and the air movement will exhaust humid air that otherwise might condense on cool or cold surfaces in your attic.
I prefer the turbine roof vent because it can work day or night with just the slightest amount of wind. You can't say that about a solar-powered roof vent. Plus, a turbine vent uses no electricity. It's a really green and environmental choice.
The common mistake many people make is to put in too little roof ventilation. It is impossible to have too much ventilation in your attic. The companies that sell roof turbines have sizing guidelines, but for every 1,000 square feet of attic space I would install two 14-inch-diameter turbine vents.
When you shop for turbine vents, let price be your barometer for quality. The more expensive turbines generally are better made and have better parts. You want the ball bearings to be sealed if possible, and you want the vent to be sturdy.
If you live in an area that may be struck by a hurricane, you will probably have to remove the turbine vent if a monster storm is forecast. Sustained winds can rip a turbine vent from a roof leaving a gapping hole in your roof. Talk with professional roofers who have weathered a hurricane or two. They possibly can tell you the best way to install a temporary patch in the roof that will not be blown off during the storm.
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Comments:
Jun Liu 30 Sep 2008, 15:05
I found this very confusing. I have read numerous places that if you have
roof ridge vent, you should not install other types of ventilation devices,
such as roof fans, because they would disrupt the natural air flow that is
critical for the ridge vent to work properly. Even some honest websites
that sell roof fans would tell you this. However, if ridge vent is not
working the way as they should, then it becomes a moot point. But if it is
really as bad as you claim, I wonder why almost every new house I have seen
uses ridge vent? I am totally confused.
Jacko 30 Sep 2008, 18:34
I just paid to have ridge vent installed on a 3400 sq ft roof - did I waste
my money and did any ridge vent vendors try to contact you to dispute your
assertion?
Erin 04 Oct 2008, 08:28
I have read that the ridge vent <i>combined</i> with soffit
vents is what creates the efficient movement of air. This is considered by
many builders to be the most effective type of venting so I am surprised at
the results of Tim's test. Perhaps there is a ridge vent but no soffit
vents at Tim's location? I need to do some further research because I was
planning to do the ridge/soffit vent combination when I have my new roof
installed but this news is a little unnerving.
Art 04 Oct 2008, 10:27
I like Erin have soffit vents and a
gable or end lover. Attic is hot but not suffacateing. Ceiling of bed rooms below are normal, like sides.
Tom 04 Oct 2008, 11:03
As the volume of hot air accumulates in the ridge vent it naturally pushes
out through the vents. Additionally, any air movement over the top of the
ridge will create a suction on the down-wind side of the vent that will
pull the hot air out of the attic. With little to no air movement you will
not notice much hot air leaving the vent, but the slightest breeze should
pull the hot air our instead of it cascading back into the attic space.
jacko 04 Oct 2008, 11:25
I should have mentioned that I followed the roofer's suggestion and added
additional soffit vents according to a formula that allows enough air
intake to allow ventilation at the ridge. I'm just concerned that I did a
lot of work for not much return.
Glenn 04 Oct 2008, 18:07
The easy way to think about how the attic vent works is "upside down".
"Lighter than air" (hot air) rises. "Heavier than air" (water) falls.
Imagine the roof upside down and filled with water. The water would drain
out through the ridge vent until the only water left was below the opening
(in the upside down peak).
The attic contains hot air that wants to rise and the soffit vents provide cooler air that wants to take it's place. The ridge vent angles down a few inches, but hot air from many feet below it is pushing to rise. The action is the same as the water in the example flowing out even though the opening in the upside down roof angles back up. You could also think of a filled balloon with a flexible straw connected to its hole. You could point the straw up and bend the end back down so escaping air would have to reverse direction. That wouldn't stop the balloon from deflating. The roof contains air that would be under pressure if it were sealed (the expanding hot air would be like the air in a pressure cooker). The air would try to escape any opening. The roof has openings at the top (the ridge vent) and at the bottom (the soffit vents). The outside air at the bottom is denser than the air at the top (it doesn't have to be denser by much). This makes it easier for the air to escape through the ridge vent. Once the pressure inside the roof is less than the difference in outside pressure between the top of the roof and the soffit, outside air pressure will push air into the soffit vents. The new cooler air gets heated in the attic and keeps the cycle going, creating a draft. You don't need a wind, like a fan, to cool the attic; just enough air flow so that the air in the attic isn't trapped and heated to a much higher temperature than the surrounding air. Bottom line, if you have a ridge vent and soffit vents that were properly installed, it really does work and you didn't waste your money.
Jack DeHaan 05 Oct 2008, 05:50
I'm preparing to install a new roof on our home next spring and have
ventilation issues. Our home is post and beam construction,roof rafters are
notched into a seven inch square beam allowing no air flow from the soffit
vents into the attic space. what other options do we have. Vented drip edge
isn't an option neither.
thanks in advance-
Elisabeth James 05 Oct 2008, 23:57
I hope you are enjoying New Hampshire. I know some nearby areas very well.
Although we live in Toledo, Ohio now.
My problem is that we have no overhang and hence no area for soffit vents. This is some gable-end vent and some ridge vent but there is not enough attic ventilation. The roofer who re-did the roof also did not cut the openings on the two ridge vents (you can't see day light through the attic). The foot print of the hosue is 3000 square foot and there are two runs of ridge vent (8' each) and a nd four small, slit style, gable ends vents. What do you recommend I have installed? Maybe an intake fan and outflow fan on opposite sides of the attic?
Ralph Newberry 06 Oct 2008, 16:47
I just finished building my own house (I built it myself) and installed 4
passive vents in the roof on one side but on the older side I have an elec
power roof vent. My house is kind of like an off set "T". People told me
that the elec. vent would not last and they are no good but I have to say
that the side of house with the power vent is much cooler than the passive
vent side and it now going on 6 years for that roof.
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