Backer Board
Summary: There is an alternative to cement backerboard. The new ceramic tile backerboard has a water resistant gypsum core with a fiberglass mat backing and a blue waterproof coating on the side. When installing backer board, be sure to use the special backer board screws.
DEAR TIM: I’m getting ready to buy backer board for a ceramic-tile project. There are different types of tile backer board leaving me confused. What backer boards would you use and which would you avoid? I know you’ve favored cement backer board in your past work, so tell me if you still feel that it’s the best product. If you can share any backer board installation tips, I’d appreciate that. Dennis D., Waynesville, OH
DEAR DENNIS: To be more precise, I’ve installed lots of concrete backer board for years, all with good results. The concrete is unaffected by any water that might somehow get behind the ceramic tile. But these concrete products are heavy, problematic to cut and can wick water causing wood rot.
Using this particular product also saves a step in the building process. If you do decide to use cement backer board, you must install a separate moisture barrier between the board and any wood that the board is attached to. Since the concrete can absorb and wick moisture, the barrier prevents wood rot should the backer board get saturated with water. I discovered first hand this can happen just a month ago when I demolished a 25-year-old bathroom that had waterlogged cement board in the shower. Because no water barrier was installed years ago, the bottoms of some of the wall studs were beginning to show water damage.
When I first got into the construction business nearly 35 years ago, a moisture-resistant drywall was the backer board of choice. It had a green paper so you could distinguish it easily from traditional drywall. Millions of square feet of this was installed in bathrooms, some by me, only to discover it didn’t do too well. Water passed through grout joints and eventually caused the green paper to fall apart. Virtually every building code now shuns this product for use in wet areas. I would never install this product behind tiles that were subject to water splashing on them.
As you prepare to install your ceramic backer board, the first thing to do is stop and read all the written instructions that deal with installing backer board. The product that I used with the bright blue coating had the instructions attached to each sheet. This is very helpful, and it can save you time and money so you don’t have a failure at a later point down the road.
Don’t underestimate the importance of using the correct fasteners when installing the backer board on walls. The combined weight of the board and the tiles you’ll attach to it is very high. I would absolutely use screws instead of nails, and not just drywall screws. You can usually find special backer board screws that have an oversized bugle-shaped head that securely fasten the board to wood or metal studs. Be sure the screws are coated so they will not rust. It’s also important to drive the screws flush with the surface of the board. Don’t allow them to tear the coated facing of the board.
If you’re installing your backer board in a shower or tub, don’t allow the board to come into contact with the concrete shower pan or the tub ledge. I prefer to hold up the backer board one-quarter inch off tub ledges and one-half inch off a concrete substrate in a poured shower. Holding the board up prevents the edge from sitting in any water.
Cutting backer board, especially if it’s a gypsum-core backer board, is done with a simple razor knife. The surface is scored with the razor, and you then snap the board creating a clean line. The razor is then used to cut the fiberglass backing. It’s the same procedure used to cut regular drywall.
Take your time to make sure that wall studs are plumb and in the same plane before you install backer board. These products conform exactly to what you fasten them to. If you want your tile to go in easily, the backer board itself must be plumb and flat.
Make sure the tile backer board that’s used on floors is attached to a sound subfloor. Screw down the wood subfloor to the floor joists before installing the backer board. If the floor seems springy or bouncy, you’ll likely deal with cracked tile. Be sure to install the backer board in a bed of cement thinset mortar to ensure there are no hollow spots or voids in between the backer board and the wood subfloor.
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Comments:
Karen Kuhlmann 06 Aug 2009, 06:40
I'm very interested in this backer board. What company manufacturers it and
where can it be bought? Does it have a specific name? I stopped at Home
Depot last night and they didn't know anything about the product.
hannah 10 Aug 2009, 11:20
also trying to find where to purchase the better backer board.
Dennis Kent 10 Aug 2009, 22:07
I would aslo like to know where to buy this new type backer board.
jeff 11 Aug 2009, 17:51
I would like to know the brand name of this backer board,and where I can
purchase it.
wanda.taylor 14 Aug 2009, 11:10
Tim
I am removing tile from my bahtroom and have ran into the cement backerboard. Is there any easy way to remove it from the wall? I am already into the project just need to finish.
Edie 15 Aug 2009, 11:20
I, too, would like to know who makes this backer board and where it is
available. Normally, the newspaper article provides contact information,
but this one didn't which is why I came to the website.
Edie 15 Aug 2009, 15:12
I found info sheets for various brands, but for purchase, I found it on
Lowes.com, so apparently they carry it in their stores. Georgia Pacfic
brand 5' x 32", 1/2" or 1/4" thick at $8/sheet.
Chris 01 Sep 2009, 02:07
I live in a high rise and have recently had to remove the tiled walls
in my ensuite bathroom. The exterior wall has steel studding as well as the opposite wall. The wall that seperates my suite from my neighbor is pure concrete. There was no strapping put up before. The previous green board was held up with 1" galvanized concrete nails and what looks like pl premium. My problem is that the enclosure has been framed for a regular tub and to install strapping will throw the tub out into the door way. How do I go about getting either a cement board or possibly the board you are speaking of here fixed directly to a concrete wall. I want to tile it so I am really banging my head on this stumbling block. I appreciate any advice you can give me.
Merrie 08 Nov 2009, 13:27
I had a fiberglass tub and surround removed from my bathroom. The new cast
iron tub was set in place by the plumber, now I'm dealing with trying to
put backerboard and tile up. I would like to try the "blue backerboard".
When the old fiberglass surround/tub was removed the studs are in sight.
There is little room between the new tub and studs on faucet and end side,
but about an inch on the length. You say to keep the blue bb 1/4" above the
tub; do I caulk it in? How do I keep water from entering this gap through
the caulk?
Dublin 11 Nov 2009, 12:09
The backer board is a Georgia Pacific (GP) product called DensShield.
DensShield has a grey tile-side surface. Lowes sells the same product
under the name DensGuard with a Lowes' blue tile-side surface. It's much
easier to use (lighter, cuts easier, etc.) than cement board and holds up
well. Just make sure to follow the directions, especially putting a bead
of silicone sealant between seams.
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