Installing Fiber Cement Siding
Every now and then, I stumble across a very interesting product. It appears that it has happened again. Fiber cement siding products are simply a magnificent alternative to conventional wood siding products - plain and simple.
The thing that is amazing about fiber cement is that it is not a new product. I have actually worked with the material for many years. Here in Cincinnati, you can drive through the older neighborhoods of Fairmont, Clifton, Norwood and Price Hill and find vast quantities of the material. Based upon the style and types of older houses you see it on, it apparently was a very economical material back 90 years ago. The good news is that it is still a very economical building material.
Concrete Roots
Portland cement was discovered in the 1800's. It didn't take long for inventors to find that it had lots of different uses besides a paving material. It made perfect sense to blend the cement paste with fine fibers and create an "armor" plate - like siding. After all, house were constructed with rock for years. Why not nail on thin sheets of rock? I sure wish I had thought of the idea!
Nails Without Splitting!
You would think that thin pieces of fiber cement siding would readily split when you drive a nail through them. It doesn't happen - unless you nail very close to an edge. Wait till you try it. You will be amazed at the ease of installing this water, fire and insect resistant building material.
If you choose to use fiber cement siding, it installs just like regular wood siding. There are a few exceptions - basically, you can blind nail this material very similar to the manner in which vinyl siding is installed.
Installing any siding correctly is becoming a lost art. Ninety nine percent of the installations I see are being done incorrectly. The siding installers seem to think that the siding will make the house/structure waterproof. Nothing could be further from the truth. Seams and butt joints between siding and trim are all excellent locations for wind driven rain to enter. This water will readily begin to rot the sheathing and your structural wood members.
If you ever have the luxury to partially demolish an older home built by old craftsmen you no doubt will run into some tar paper. Tar paper was the only water repellent available for the old timers to use. But guess what? It was very effective. Tar paper was used under old fiber cement siding, traditional wood siding and stucco. You need to use it under your new fiber cement siding at the very least. A better alternative is to use a moisture and air infiltration barrier. These products are easier to apply and offer great energy savings potential. If you choose to use tar paper, remember that you work from the bottom up. Each successive piece must overlap the one below. This is how water is shed to the bottom of the structure. Don't forget that your first piece should extend 1/2 inch over the top of the foundation. This will ensure that water will not roll back under the sill plate and into your basement or into your house should you live on a slab.
Trim First - Siding Last
Installing siding is a multi-step process. The fun part of actually applying the siding is usually the last thing you do! The first thing you must do is apply all of your inside and outside corner boards, window trim, starter strips and flashings. Once all of this detail work is complete, you can finally install the siding. Currently, the major fiber cement siding manufacturers do not have thick fiber cement trim boards available. I'm told this is a future possibility. As such you are forced to use wood trim or vinyl. Either material will do fine. To get long lasting results with wood trim, it is absolutely necessary that you backprime the wood BEFORE installation. Backpriming simply means that you must paint all surfaces, edges and ends of the wood before it is installed. It is actually preferable to paint it with two coats. When final cuts are made, these fresh cut ends need a coat of paint just before the wood is nailed into place.
Caulk & Flashing at Butt Joints
Because siding pieces only overlap one another 1 and 1/4 inch or so, butt joints (where two pieces of siding butt against one another) are highly susceptible to leaking. The manufacturers recommend that you caulk these butt joints. That is a good start. I urge you to cut small pieces of 30 # felt paper to act as a flashing. These strips of paper need to be two inches wide and two inches longer than the width of your siding material. As you nail the end of your first piece, slide a felt strip in place so it is up 1/4 inch from the bottom of the piece you are installing. One inch of the felt should be under the piece you are nailing. The remainder that is exposed will be covered by the abutting piece of siding.
Nails
Spend the extra money and use stainless steel nails. These nails are less prone to bending as you nail. Also, you never have to worry about rust!
Specific Installation Instructions
No matter who installs your fiber cement siding or panels, you MUST obtain and read the installation instructions. Each manufacturer has different ways to install their product. The process of reading the instructions may take only 1/2 hour!
If you hire a contractor to install the siding, make periodic visits to ensure that the job is being done right. Remember, the contractor can't see your house from his!!! Mistakes and leaks will not bother him.........
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Steve 08 Dec 2007, 22:47
I have read many installations advice articles on fiber cement siding.
They all share a similar reference that the installation is similar to that
of wood siding. However, I have not noted any references regarding
temperature related installation limits; specifically cold temperatures.
Can you comment on the cold weather installation limits of fiber cement
siding, please?
AsktheBuilder 09 Dec 2007, 08:01
Steve,
You bet I can. I will tell you what I tell everyone who asks a similar question; Get the *written* installation instructions from the manufacturer and see what they say. Why is this important? Because only the manufacturer is going to back the warranty. Be very careful about getting instructions from people who will be of little use when the going gets rough.
Steve 14 Dec 2007, 00:40
Thank you, Mr. Carter...
CertainTeed does not specifically address limitations other than to say you should use extra precautions in colder temps. What I found interesting is that they will offer recommendations over the phone but will not reply in writing via email when asked the same question. Other questions were promptly reply to but the cold weather question went unanswered. I'm not an attorney but I would think that the ommission of specifics would not relieve them of their obligation to warrant the product - heaven forbid something happened. Any thoughts?
AsktheBuilder 15 Dec 2007, 11:21
Steve,
I would just install it normally. If the temperature is below 20F, I might think of cutting pieces a tad short to allow for expansion when the hot weather arrives.
Steve 07 Jan 2008, 22:14
Sometimes I prefer to use a screw fastener. Would a deck screw be
preferable to a regular multi-purpose screw for cement products?
AsktheBuilder 08 Jan 2008, 07:47
Steve,
Use the EXACT fasteners as specified by the manufacturer of the siding. This will protect your warranty.
John Bannan 10 Feb 2008, 21:35
Hi;
On the installation of HardiPlank or Fibre cement siding. I live at a very high wind driven rain area on the Columbia River in Washington and have installed 8-1/4 inch wide Hardi Plank on my house, using 6 inch laps. My neighbor also did the same. I nailed it on along the bottom of the plank, every 16 inches. My neighbor nailed his on along the top. His siding was flapping with every wind, and all had to be replaced. I used topar under the hardi Plank. After 7 years, all of the sheathing on the weather side was totally rotten on my house, including the 6 inch studs. Also, I noticed that the hand driven nails had blown out the back of the Hardi Plank where ever nailed. I'm not interested in Lawyers, just want a good product that works. I did the caulking, and this time, when I Rebuilt it, I used pressure treated wood under the siding, and 30 lb felt. Does anyone have a suggestion about the installation, E.G.; Blown out back where nailed, and rot; the best way to install?? Thanks, John
AsktheBuilder 11 Feb 2008, 07:58
John,
You should have come here before you started. I have numerous columns telling you how to make a house with siding of any type rot-proof. The best way to install siding you ask? Well, read all of my columns and pay attention to the ones where I talk about felt paper and water membranes. Also, read the siding manufacturer's written instructions.
johnbannan 11 Feb 2008, 12:18
Hello again,
Yes, I have read your comments and what little info there is on the installation of cement siding, the advice being mostly to ask the Manufacturer. But of course the Manufacturer doesn't mention that the siding is inherently flawed. Too bad no there isn't any info on what problems I have addressed to you. That is in wind driven rain, after using strips of tar paper at all of the butt joints, tar paper or topar behind the siding, caulk etc. the siding still is wet behind the tar paper or topar wrap. The back of the siding is blown out where nails are driven (similar to a gun shot, where the hole going in is small, and the back of the hole is large). I guess that is just one of the problems inherent in the product. I am glad that you do have a website where people can make comments about unresolved and unaddresed issues. For that I thank you. John
Steve 11 Feb 2008, 13:56
John,
I became concerned with the installation of my siding when I noted the installers were over-driving the nails with their nail guns. On a couple occassions I noted, what appeared to be, a drive by shooting. A 12 foot panel with 15 or more nail heads. On 16 inch centers the max number of nails would be 10. It was as if they fired away until they hit pay dirt. Anyway, that crew got booted. The crew that followed did a remarkable job. We seldom have the type of weather you mention, but the Tyvek, butt joint flashing and 1.75 inch overlap gave me extra comfort because we opted to go with the blind nail fastening. We also chose Certainteed. To test the product before it was installed I broke off a piece and put it in a bucket of water over the weekend. Boy was I surprised to find it did not wick any water or deteriorate in the least. We also had the product sent out for custom pre-finishing. What product manufacture did you use on your home? FYI, Certainteed's website has a reasonably comprehensive installers manual. Steve View all comments |


