Attic Trusses - Room Size

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By Tim Carter
©1993-2010 Tim Carter

Summary: Create extra storage space with attic trusses. Special roof trusses or storage trusses allow for that extra room in the attic. Is there a price for this room in attic trusses? Here are some attic frame truss possibilities.


Attic Trusses - Room Sizes

My friend, Loren Power, will be the first to tell you that I made a mistake on his house. He was the one who pointed up into the vast attic space of his home and said, "What a huge waste of space. Why didn't we make some sort of room up there?" Of course this was after the entire roof was constructed and it was too late to turn back. Loren's comments years ago quickly put me in my place. It was obvious that I still had lots to learn about offering options to homeowners.

BIG Rooms!

If your new house will have a steeply pitched roof - say 10 inches of rise for every 12 inches of run (10/12 pitch) or more - then you can gain some very serious room if you upgrade to an attic truss.

For example, if your house is a 50 foot long by 38 feet wide structure, you can get an attic truss that will allow you to create a full height room (8 foot ceiling) that is 16 feet wide by 50 feet long! That is 800 extra square feet. Think of how you could slice and dice up that space into different rooms.

Costing That Space

So how much extra did that space cost to create? My guess is that the national average for an attic truss that will create the space we just described will cost you about $100 more than a regular common truss. For the 50 foot long room you will need about 24 trusses. This is $2,400 plus the cost of the plywood subfloor. Let's say plywood costs $20 per sheet for 3/4 inch tongue and groove yellow pine. We will need 25 sheets to cover our 800 square foot space. This will add an additional $500 to our material cost. We are now at $2,900 plus tax. Let's just say it will be $3,100.

Get out the calculator. $3,100 divided by 800 square feet equals just $3.88 per square foot rough construction cost! that is a HUGE bargain, especially when you compare that to the overall cost of your house. Not only that, this cost is almost purely material cost. The labor to set the trusses is no different than had you not included the room. You would be a fool not to create this space or at least a partial space up in the trusses.

Storage Space Only?

Just this morning I received an e-mail from an individual. He had discovered a hidden storage space up in his attic. The dilemma was whether or not the floor of the space could support the weight of storage boxes. Had the builder installed attic trusses or their step-sister storage trusses, I doubt I would have received the e-mail.

Storage trusses are ideal structural members for over a garage or even a regular house that has a lower sloped roof. These trusses do not cost much more than a standard truss. They usually have a built-in head room of only 5 feet. This is done intentionally so you aren't tempted to create a full-blown living space within the storage area.

The bottom chord of the storage trusses is also not built to support living space loads. It will handle storage boxes as long as the boxes aren't full of books and magazines! If you do store lots of heavy items in any attic, be sure to distribute the loads throughout the attic. Never, never concentrate heavy loads on any wood framed floor.

Truss Modifications

Talk to any structural engineer and they will tell you that trusses can be modified. Heck, why not move the World Trade Center in New York City a block away at the same time..... The point is that trusses can be modified, but usually at great expense.

Not only that, you have to make sure the modification is approved by a structural engineer who works with trusses. Don't forget that trusses are designed as an entire system. One truss depends upon the trusses next to it for total system strength. Modifications to a single truss impacts the entire roof assembly to a certain degree.

Follow Instructions

Trusses are what I call "dynamic equilibrium" framing components. This just means that they are fussy. You can't cut or notch any of the members. Boring of large holes into trusses can also cause major problems. Don't even think of monkeying around with trusses unless you get written instructions and guidelines from the truss fabricator.

You will find truss fabricators near every major city. These businesses take structural framing lumber, computer controlled saws, special metal plates, and lots of sweat to make roof and floor trusses. I urge you to visit one of these places to see the enormous possibilities that open up when you start to think truss.

Progressive companies will arrange to give you a quick tour of the operation. You will leave with a fresh understanding of rough carpentry, geometry, and manufactured housing parts.


Attic Truss Room Sizes

The size of any room you create in an attic space is directly proportional to the slope or steepness of the outside roof. The faster the roof rises (steeper) the quicker you can get to an 8 foot height inside a room. Many people consider steep roofs to be ones that a carpenter would consider rather flat. For example, from the ground a roof with a 6/12 pitch seems fairly steep. It isn't. This roof slope is really only 26 .5 degrees. Steep roofs, in my opinion, start with pitches of 10/12. A 10/12 pitch roof has a slope of 40 degrees. It is very difficult to stand on a pitch like this without sliding.

Truss manufacturers have very sophisticated computer programs that allow them to design trusses. You can enter in different variables like span, pitch, etc. and it will tell you the maximum sized room you can fit inside a given truss. The data below will show you that steep roof heights allow generous rooms! Talk to your lumber company representative. They should be quite helpful. These salespeople can get different truss diagrams from the manufacturer that will show you how big the room within the truss will be. These diagrams fit on a regular piece of paper and can be easily faxed to you. Be sure to ask for them so you can see what you are getting. Don't try to build your own trusses based on the figures and diagram shown below. Trusses are engineered building components. Structural engineers actually sign off on each truss design. The diagram below and room sizes shown below are possibilities. You might actually do better when it comes time to actually design your truss.


Attic Frame Truss Possibilities

Using the values below in conjunction with the truss diagram will allow you to see what is possible with respect to rooms "hidden" within a truss. Note that the bottom horizontal part of the truss (bottom chord) is not drawn to scale. In the real world this will probably be a 2x8 or 2x10 framing member. Don't worry about that as you will never see it once the house is complete.

The truss in the drawing is a 10/12 pitch for reference sake.

8/12 Pitch Roof Truss

38 Foot Span
A=16' B=12'3" C=6'9" D=8'

40 Foot Span
A=16' B=14'3" C=7'5" D=8'

9/12 Pitch Roof Truss

30 Foot Span
A=14' B=10'2" C=6'1" D=7'8"

34 Foot Span
A=16' B=14'2" C=6'11" D=7'8"

38 Foot Span
A=16' B=16' C=8' D=8'

10/12 Pitch Roof Truss

30 Foot Span
A=14' B=10'2" C=6'1" D=7'8"

34 Foot Span
A=16' B=14'2" C=6'11" D=7'8"

38 Foot Span
A=16' B=16' C=8' D=8'

40 Foot Span
A=16' B=16' C=8' D=8'

12/12 Pitch Roof Truss

26 Foot Span
A=14' B=9'6" C=5'5" D=7'8"

32 Foot Span
A=15'6" B=15'6" C=7'8" D=7'8"

36 Foot Span
A=16' B=16' C=8' D=8'

40 Foot Span
A=16' B=16' C=8' D=8'

Truss Diagram and Values courtesy of
Trusco, Inc., Doylestown, OH 44230


Cutting Common Roof Rafters

How well did you do in high school geometry? If you did fairly well, then cutting roof rafters will be a piece of cake. All you have to keep in mind is the fact that there are primarily two cuts in rafters. The ones that are straight up and down (plumb cuts) just like a plumb line and level cuts (heel cuts). Rafters simply have a series of cuts in them, all of which are either parallel with one another or oriented at 90 degrees to one another.

Pitch - not Baseball or the Tar Stuff!

To cut a rafter you need to know the pitch of the roof. This is the rise and the run relationship. By convention we call it out as the number of inches a roof slope climbs as you proceed 12 inches horizontally across the roof. An example would be a 4/12 pitch roof. The roof "rises" 4 inches in height for every 12 inches it "runs" horizontally.

A framing square will create the series of parallel lines and perpendicular lines if you simply slide it along one of the edges of the rafter. Note that a framing square has two legs. The narrow one that is 16 inches long is the tongue. The fatter one that is 2 feet long is the body. The are oriented at 90 degrees to one another.....now isn't that a coincidence.....?

Note that there are markings - in inches - on both the inside and outside edges of the square. The starting point of the markings is at the corner where the two legs meet. This is important. You must decide to use either the markings on the outside edges or inside. I happen to like using the outside edges of the framing square.

Positioning the Square

Let's say we are doing a 4/12 pitch roof. Find the 4 inch mark on the outside edge of the tongue. Locate the 12 inch mark on the outside edge of the body. Position the square so these two marks are touching the same edge of the rafter your are going to mark. Note how the square is oriented at an angle across the rafter. The tongue of the square is creating your plumb cut where the rafter will rest against the ridge board. The body is creating the heel cut where the rafter will sit on top of the wall. We could mark and cut right now if our span was just one foot. But we aren't building a cat house!

Rafter Length

Let's go back to geometry. The rafter square makes two sides of a right triangle. The sloping rafter makes the third component - that being the hypotenuse. The length of the hypotenuse is what goofs everyone up. How do you figure out the length of the rafter? It is simple mathematics. It has already been done for you if you buy a quality framing square. There are tables on the body of the square that tell you how long the rafter is for the different pitches for each foot of horizontal run.

You can also purchase books, booklets, or fancy construction calculators that will instantly tell you the rafter length as long as you plug in the rise, run and span values. Once you grasp how to orient the square, this is your only other challenge.

Ridge Tail, and Seat Cuts

If you do the pure math to figure out rafter length, you will always be a little long. Why? Just about everyone uses a ridge board. You need to shorten the rafter for half the thickness of the ridge. This often means slicing off an extra 3/4 inch off the plumb cut at the one end.

The seat cut is the notch where the rafter sits on wall. Don't make this too deep. Never cut out more than 1/3 the plumb cut distance into the rafter.

The rafter tail cuts where the roof ends are best made - in my opinion - after the roof is framed. If your wall is not perfectly straight - most aren't - your gutter board will mimic the curved line of the wall if you cut the tails at the same time you make all your other cuts. It is more work to do it in the air, but it is well worth it.


Truss Setting Guidelines

Every year many construction workers get killed or seriously injured from truss assemblies that collapse suddenly during construction. The most common problem is that the trusses were not braced properly and sufficiently during the erection process.

All truss manufacturers will gladly supply you with a booklet showing how to brace trusses as you set them on top of the walls. A simple 2x4 or series of parallel 2x4's providing the 16 or 24 inch spacing isn't enough! You need additional diagonal braces that make X's on the top chord of the trusses. Larger trusses often need similar diagonal bracing on the vertical center post web member too. the larger the truss (both height and span) the more complicated the bracing. Gravity, wind, the motion of workers, and an unexpected bump by the crane can easily topple a truss roof during construction.

Complicated Truss Roofs

If you are setting a hip roof made from trusses, you will probably have girder trusses, special hips, etc. There is a certain order in which the components must be set. Not only that, you work from the two long ends of the roof towards the middle.

The truss manufacturer will almost always provide you with a set of erection instructions to help you. If you are a rookie, I wouldn't think of trying this without some experienced help.





Comments:

Pat Friel
27 Jan 2008, 17:44
Tim, I'm getting ready to have a 2 1/2 car garage built and it will have a hip roof to match the house. I also want to get some attic storage with this project. Are there attic or storage trusses that will work with a hip roof?

Thank You
AsktheBuilder
28 Jan 2008, 10:21
Pat,
Yes, as long as your garage is rectangular in shape. If it is a square, the hip roof will come to a point.
Phil Jones
10 Feb 2008, 17:02
I am planning an addition of approx. 40ft. x 43ft. with a hip roof. What would be a good estimate of the maximum size of a attic room that could be planned. I could live 2 or 4 vertical supports if it would help. It would probably be about a 9-12 pitch and also would 16" centers as opposed to 24" centers on the trusses help. I am just trying to get as much room as possible as long as the cost in not completely prohibitive. Thanks for your opinion....
AsktheBuilder
10 Feb 2008, 17:08
Phil,
I did a 10-second calculation. My *guess* is that you may get a room 15 x 18 out of that with 8-foot ceilings. Go to a truss fabricator for the real size and get back to tell me how close I was.
livingston
26 Feb 2008, 16:50
Hello , The question that I have is I am building a new house and the house is 60' wide and 74 ' long I want to used attic struses .What size roof should I used a 7-12 or an 8-12 roof.
Phil Jones
01 Mar 2008, 20:53
Thanks for your comment, we are using 10/12 pitch and can do a room about 7'10" high and sized at 16' x 17'8".I had wanted two shed dormers incorporated but my architect said the best I could do would be 5 4'dormers using girder trusses. I see shed dormers all around town and now I am wondering how they do it. Could shed dormers at around 10' be possible if it was built with custom rafters instead of the truss system...Thanks again, Phil Jones
AsktheBuilder
02 Mar 2008, 11:22
Livingston,
I think you should go with an 8 / 12 pitch.
Harper
03 Mar 2008, 15:46
We are building a 30X40X10 shop & would like a bonus room up top to store things & maybe a pool table/game room. My house has a 4/12 pitch roof & I don't want the shop to over power the house. What pitch roof would you recommend for the shop? Thanks!
MARK MYERS
05 Mar 2008, 13:15
Iam getting ready to build my own house, and I know little about truss size. I would like to order them, but I dont know what information they need. My house will be 34' wide by 48' long. What do you think my truss sizes will be. I dont want much attic space, maybe to store a box or two.
ken
06 Mar 2008, 18:56
Building a 24X30 Garage. Would like starage/space above. With a 8/12 pitch roof, which would be better. Attick trusses, starage trusses or rafters 24" on center 2X8 wall ties.

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