Shower Pan CPE Membranes
Summary: Shower pan membranes seem similar but come in different qualities. CPE membranes, especially Chloraloy, are of high quality. This shower membrane is easy to bend and cut.
CPE Membranes
When you purchase your shower pan membrane you will need to be careful. The different liner products on the market all appear to be somewhat similar. You will find the CPE membranes at top quality plumbing wholesale houses that sell to plumbers and often at ceramic tile specialty stores.
The brand name CPE membrane I have had the best luck with is called Chloraloy. Visit a plumbing supply house or a real ceramic tile store and ask for a small sample. Note how supple and soft it is. The real McCoy - if you locate it - will have the words CHLORALOY 240 CPE written on it in numerous places. It will also state that it is 40 mils thick.
Once you get your hands on some Chloraloy, note how easy it is to bend the material. This will be important when you start to form inside corners. You will appreciate this flexibility as the material needs to fold back over on itself at each inside corner.
Certain situations require you to cut the membrane. For example, you will want to extend the CPE over your shower curb. When you cut the material you often will have to cut a patch or a small piece to wrap over/around the cut area. Be sure to purchase the special welding solvent made by the folks that make the Chloraloy. Don't try to use some other glue or adhesive. It won't work! The special solvent actually welds the pieces or patches together into one solid piece of CPE.
Pay attention when cutting out the round hole that allows the membrane to fit into the clamping drain assembly. If you cut the hole too big, you will have problems. Remember, you can always trim a little more off! Be conservative on your first attempt. Once you are sure of the fit, use an adhesive caulk on both sides of the membrane where it contacts the drain assembly. This acts sort of like pipe dope. Do NOT apply so much that it clogs the drain/weep holes around the top of the clamping ring. Pay attention to this detail - to be sure!
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Comments:
Michelle 15 Feb 2008, 23:35
Please tell me where to order or purchase cpe memb. sealant. Also is there
a difference between mortar and thick bed flor mortar? And where can I find
Latex Mortar additive. All these are required to put my cpe membrane in.
AsktheBuilder 16 Feb 2008, 10:27
Michelle,
If you are asking these questions, you are in way over your head. You know what you need? http://www.askthebuilder.com/EB003_Shower_Pan_Liner.shtml and this: http://www.askthebuilder.com/EB004_Shower_Pan_Cement_Mud_Floor_EBook.shtml
quezia hall 19 Nov 2008, 18:38
I am remodeling my high raise condo and will be re-doing 2 showers pans.
what is the best way to do them to make sure we do not leak into neighbors
ceilings ?
REBECCA 18 Jan 2009, 22:09
WHAT IS THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THE SHOWER PAN FLOOR?
Sarah 21 Jan 2009, 09:14
We are installing tile in a bonified steam room. Does the CPE membrane go
under a concrete board substrate, or on top?
Sarah 21 Jan 2009, 09:27
Actually, the floor of the steam room is a concrete slab. So, to restate
my question: Does the CPE membrane go over the concrete slab, and the tile
(using thinset mortar) go over the membrane?
Doug 29 Sep 2009, 16:02
I'm replacing a cultural marble shower which failed because the didn't
install a pan. What do you think of the polyethylene plastic shower pan
(dixsystems)?
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