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Clothes Dryer Vent Leaks in Ceiling

By Tim Carter
©1993-2009 Tim Carter

Summary: Clothes dryer vents can actually create water leaks. If the clothes dryer vent pipe gets cold, the warm, moist air inside condenses and turns to liquid water. This water can leak from the vent pipes if the seams are not taped. The best way to stop clothes dryer vent pipe leaks is to make sure the pipe does not get cold.

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DEAR TIM: I live in a condo on the ground floor. My dryer is located in a closet in my bedroom. My dryer duct is routed from the back of my bedroom out into my living room ceiling where it connects to the dryer vent. Lately I have noticed a leak in my living room ceiling. The plumber found the dryer vent to be leaking at the elbow. What could be causing this? Please help, I'm living with a large hole in my ceiling and am unsure what to do. Alexandra N., Bedminster, NJ

DEAR ALEXANDRA: The leak is being caused by condensation that is forming either inside or outside of the actual clothes dryer vent pipe. That part of the pipe is getting cold and the very moist hot air from the clothes dryer is turning into liquid water as it gets closer to the exterior of the condominium's exterior wall. To stop the leak, you must keep the entire length of dryer vent pipe nice and warm.

To do this job correctly, you may have to enlarge the hole in the living room ceiling to expose the entire length of the dryer vent pipe. This may seem radical, but the drywall repair person can fix a larger hole in just about the same time as it takes to fix the small one created by the plumber who discovered the source of the problem.




I have found that it is often best to vent fans and dryers through the roof. I urge you to watch this video of mine to see how easy it is to install the correct vent-cap flashing on a roof. Have no fear - if done right you will have no leaks.



First, you need to caulk around the hole in the exterior wall where the dryer vent pipe exits your condominium. I'm willing to wager that cold air is leaking in this location and it allows the exhaust pipe to get cold. But only perform the caulking if the correct exhaust pipe is installed.

Clothes dryer vent pipes should be made from smooth, rigid metal dryer duct of at least 4 inches and no longer than 25 feet. Be sure that you have a minimum amount of 90 degree bends in the pipe. Each 90 degree bend produces the same amount of resistance to air flow as ten linear feet of straight pipe. Most clothes dryers limit the total length of vent pipe run, so you must pay attention to this installation requirement. You can find this information in the clothes dryer instruction manual.

If you use either of the metal pipes, tape all seams with real heating and cooling duct tape. This tape is meant to be used on steel or aluminum ducts. Do not confuse it with the common gray duct tape sold in all hardware stores and home centers. Heating and cooling duct tape has special adhesives and often a very shiny outer surface.

The final step it to completely insulate the outside of the clothes dryer vent pipe as it travels across the entire living room ceiling to where it exits your condominium. The insulation must be expertly installed and no part of the metal vent pipe must be exposed. You can use regular fiberglass insulation for this task. If you simply want to fill the entire joist space cavity with insulation, that will work. If you want to just wrap the pipe with thinner insulation, be sure you use the special duct tape to keep the insulation tight around the dryer vent pipe.

Once you have performed all of this work, it is time to repair your ceiling. Be sure there is plenty of insulation in the ceiling joist cavity near the outside wall. If you decide to just insulate the pipe, then be sure to completely fill the cavity with fiberglass insulation extending back four feet from the exterior wall towards the center of the room. This will block the cold from entering the ceiling cavity where the clothes dryer vent pipe is located.



Comments:

Tim
03 Jan 2008, 13:23
I have a similar type problem. I live in a 2nd floor condo while there is a unit above me as well on the 3rh floor. Their bathroom is directly over my bathroom. I noticed water through the bathroom vent and I do not know if it is coming from the upstairs people's bathroom or from my dryer vent. I called the homeowners association and they said that my dryer vent goes to the side of the building but they do not know if it courses over my bathroom to get to the outside. Is there any way to find out? Thanks.
AsktheBuilder
05 Jan 2008, 06:19
Tim,
You would have to use one of the mini-cameras on a cable to chart the pipes location. Or find someone who has strong mystic powers.
Susan
06 Mar 2008, 13:51
For those of us who are positively hopeless in the DIY department, what kind of contractor would do work like this? I do know that our vent is galvanized steel, so we shouldn't need to replace it, just the caulking and insulating. Thank you!
AsktheBuilder
09 Mar 2008, 11:19
Susan,
I would hire a great handyman or an HVAC contractor as they deal with metal ductwork daily.
Todd
10 Mar 2008, 11:56
Can a dryer be vented straight up through the roof. If so, should the vent going through the attic in a cold climate be double walled such as would be used to vent a wood burning stove?

Todd
AsktheBuilder
13 Mar 2008, 08:12
Todd,
I discuss this exact topic and what to use in other columns I have about Bath Exhaust Fans. Look in my Ventilation category for all of them.
michael
07 Jun 2008, 09:15
When it comes to insulating the exhaust pipe are you recommending straight batt insulation with no vapor barrior just taped on?

i have pipe wrap that has a plastic barrior and i'm wondering if that could be used but would it be a fire hazzard?

also if the pipe is in a chase would it be acceptable to "foam it in" with foam spray insulation?
scott
03 Jul 2008, 20:32
I have similar questions to Michael's question on 6/7/08 and having been checking back for an answer. Looking for advice on how to insulate around the dryer exhaust pipe as it exits the house without creating a fire hazard.
AsktheBuilder
09 Jul 2008, 19:19
Michael,
You can use unfaced batts. If a fire gets outside of the pipe, you have much bigger problems.
stan
12 Jul 2008, 09:38
It seams a dryer vent pipe of any length running through conditioned or unconditioned space has 2 condensation considerations. One condition where condensation is inside the pipe and the other outside of the pipe. It seems there should be a way to vapor seal and insulate a dryer vent pipe with a product that can handle the heat of the pipe?
Straight batt would not vapor seal the pipe. Is there another product/solution than trying to wrap batt insulation around a pipe?

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