Snow Roof
DEAR TIM: I have a snow roof problem. There is, in my opinion, tons of snow on my roof. How can one calculate when the snow is reaching dangerous levels, and have to call in someone to clean it off? I use a snow roof rake, but am only able to get the lower end of my slanted roof. This roof snow removal is top on my list as I'm really worried about collapse. Many people had damage from last year's record snows. Elaine Jackson, Chicopee, MA
DEAR ELAINE: Snow on roofs is indeed a major issue. Snow is just frozen water, and liquid water weighs 62.42 pounds per cubic foot. The University of Arkansas Division of Agriculture Cooperative Extension Service published a great paper about snow loads in March of 2006. Dr. Jarl VonDevender and Doug Petty discussed in this white paper exactly what you are interested in knowing. They said:
"The water content of snow may range from 3% for very dry snow to 33% for a wet, heavy snow, to nearly 100% for ice. An inch of water depth weighs 5.2 lbs. per square foot. Thus, a roof designed to carry a snow load of 20 lbs. per horizontal square foot is expected to support nearly 12 inches of wet, heavy snow."
In all likelihood, your roof is probably designed for a snow load of 20 lbs. per horizontal square foot. But keep in mind that poor materials and poor building construction methods can contribute to a lower rating. Ice is the real danger as it weighs nearly the same as liquid water. A cubic foot of solid ice weighs 92% of what a cubic foot of liquid water. This means that your roof can only support a few inches of ice.
The snow on the roof needs to be removed immediately if you want to protect your home. Since you don't know if your builders and carpenters were building the best roof for snow, you have to assume they didn't. Without being an engineer or hiring one, you simply can't look and determine what roofs for snow look like. There are many variables not the least of which is the type of lumber and its grade that was used to frame the roof. Different lumber has vastly different strengths.
Depending upon the style of house you have, getting the snow from the roof might be difficult. Two story houses with low-slope roofs are the hardest. I've seen workers scale up these roofs wearing ice cleats and just shovel the snow to the ground. Steep pitched roofs tend to be the easiest to deal with as often these can be cleaned from the ground using snow roof rakes. I've used these tools to get lots of snow off my roof in a short amount of time.
Metal roofs and snow pose a different problem. Because the metal is slippery, snow can launch off these roofs without warning and cause serious injury or death to people who get buried by the avalanche. These roofs can be equipped with special accessories that break up the snow and ice into smaller pieces as it starts to slide, but the weight of the metal-roofing snow is still the same.
If you're unable to use a snow roof rake yourself, then hire an individual to do the job for you. Make sure this individual has Workman's Compensation insurance as well as general liability insurance. If he gets hurt while working, or the snow falls and damages something, you want to be sure you don't have to pay for these extra costs.
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joe kelly 09 Feb 2009, 18:59
Hi tim
how important is it to remove snow from an open wrap around porch. the snow reach a depth 5 to 6 feet. the condo association is not concearn. i am because of the tremendous weight on porch structure. thanks joe kelly
Stefanie Chandler 12 Feb 2009, 14:17
They can put heating lines undee the floor why not between the ply undedr a
steal roof run the water through the lines, the roof gets warm, snow melts
water returns to water heater.
Please forgive me if this sounds too dumb but I live in south FL andam planing to move to TN and I need to learn there things.
ananymous 13 Feb 2009, 19:42
Often people do have electric heater lines attached to shingle roofs to
melt away any ice dam. They are usually only required at the lower edge
where the ice is blocking the gutters.
A metal roof would take away any local heat generated instantly. You would have to put the heater above the metal roof with 1/4" gap, so that it only heats the ice or snow and not the roof. The amount of energy to heat ice or snow from -5 deg C to +1 deg C is MUCH less than that required to heat your hot water from +6 deg C to +65 deg C ! The water entering your house from underground is already warmer than any snow melt would be. Just throw some non corrosive salt up there, like potassium chloride instead of sodium chloride (salt).
william h chappell 07 May 2009, 09:14
Interested in this. thank you
Mary Bodmer 12 May 2009, 15:41
My roof looks like the picture on this page. What should I do to remove
the snow? It keeps sliding down till it piles up on my patio metal roof.
Last year it pulled it away from house. Live alone need simple solution for
older person. What are ice guards and are they anygood. thank you Mary
Eliezer Silva 09 Dec 2009, 14:27
how much should someone charge hourly to do roof raking.
thank you very much.
J. Campbell 08 Feb 2010, 15:20
How do I remove an ice jam that is making my roof leak?
Stan 29 Mar 2010, 17:01
I have to completely disagree with your view that snow must be removed from
a roof. Removing snow from a roof poses two big risks that I don't believe
are worth it (under normal circumstances). First is the likelihood and
high incidence of roof damage by those damn roof rakes or shovels or
whatever else you're using to remove the snow. Second is the stresses
involved. Removing snow from a roof is done one side at a time. This
causes your roof to bear a tremendous uneven load - one side way heavier
than the other. Many roofs (aka - it was the cheaper roof than ...) were
not designed to take uneven roof loads.
Bottom line is that, unless you have 3 or 4 feet of snow on your roof, 2 feet of ice on your entire roof, your roof structure was designed by monkeys and installed by chimpanzees or any other non-normal situation, your roof is probably fine just the way it is. Roofs are designed to handle loading.
Larry F. 31 Dec 2010, 18:04
This may help:
Instead of using a Roof Rake, Use a Roof "RAZOR". I just bought and tried one and it works great. As you push the Roof Razor up the roof, the snow breakes off and slides down a plastic tarp. I did about an 80 feet wide area (front and back) in 1 1/2 hours. I was able to go about 8 feet up from the gutters. Check them out on YOUTUBE.COM Larry View all comments |


