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Water Heater Venting

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DEAR TIM: I recently had my heating system replaced with a high efficiency system. The new furnace vents directly through the wall to the exterior.

My water heater is now the only thing venting into the masonry chimney.

I'm concerned about exhaust gas damage that might be occurring inside my chimney. Do you think it's necessary to have a chimney liner installed? Robert K., Norwich, CT

DEAR ROBERT: Venting of any fuel burning appliance is serious business.

Chimney & Vent Sizes

The vent for your recently orphaned water heater may not have been checked by the furnace installer. Many building codes mandate that once modified or changed, all fuel burning appliance vents must be sized according to code.

I suggest that you contact your local building or fire department inspector. These two public servants should provide you with the information to ensure your hot water heater and your chimney meets code.

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Drafting Dynamics

The dynamics of drafting are complicated. Traditional masonry chimneys were designed and sized to vent very hot flue gases from old coal, wood burning, or low efficiency gas furnaces.

The exhaust gas temperature of modern gas furnaces and water heaters is much lower than past appliances because much more heat is harvested so you waste less money up your chimney.

Can you see the mistake in this photo? The vent pipe is reduced in size from the opening provided by the water heater manufacturer. After this discovery, the homeowner immediately installed four-inch pipe from the heater to the chimney. © Copyright 2017 Tim Carter 

Chimneys are like water pipes, they can only handle so much exhaust at a given pressure. Imagine if the huge boilers of your local power plant tried to exhaust up your house chimney.

There simply wouldn't be enough room to handle all the smoke and ash.

Size Is Everything

On the contrary, if you tried to exhaust your furnace and water heater into a power plant chimney, the exhaust gases very likely wouldn't rise.

The giant chimney of the power plant is filled with a column of cold, dense air.

The small amount of warm, or hot air, from your water heater would have a tough time offsetting this falling air that's trying to enter your home. If that were to happen, it could drag some of the exhaust gas back into your basement. This could cause a carbon monoxide poisoning issue.

Oversized Liner = Condensation

Herein lies the problem. Your chimney's existing flue liner may be oversized for the orphaned water heater. This can, in some instances, create condensation problems inside of masonry chimneys.

Water vapor is a byproduct of the combustion of natural gas. If the inside of the chimney cools down too much or there is too much cold air inside the chimney, the water vapor can condense and saturate the masonry inside the chimney before it can escape into the atmosphere.

Sometimes the condensed water contains acids that can chemically attack poor quality mortars.

It's best to use a stainless steel chimney liner if you're high-efficiency water heater or furnace exhausts into a masonry chimney.

This is a kit that allows you to install a stainless-steel liner inside a larger masonry chimney clay flue. CLICK THIS IMAGE NOW TO BUY THIS KIT.

On And Off

Before you installed your new furnace, your old low efficiency furnace cycled on and off frequently. This process kept the inside of the chimney warm. That heat source has been removed.

Although the water heater does contribute heat to the chimney during its off cycle, it may not be enough to prime the vent so to speak.

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Code Sources

Currently, there are many organizations that produce building codes. For many years, the American Gas Association (www.aga.org) and the National Fire Protection Association, Inc. (www.nfpa.org) have authored the National Fuel Gas Code.

This code, as well as other uniform building codes, contain tables and charts that people use to properly size and install chimneys for fuel burning appliances. Research is currently being conducted by the Gas Research Institute that may create changes used in sizing masonry chimneys.

In other words, code refinements are forthcoming with regards to venting modern fuel burning appliances.

Quick Check

You can do a quick check of your chimney to see if it meets an old rule of thumb and some of the current codes. Measure the diameter of the exhaust pipe leaving your hot water heater.

If it is a 3-inch-diameter pipe, the inside cross sectional area of the chimney flue liner should not exceed 49 square inches. If the exhaust pipe is 4 inches in diameter, the flue liner cross sectional area should not be larger than 88 square inches.

Flue In A Flue

If you find that your chimney does not meet code or it is too large, you can reduce the size of a chimney lining. There are approved corrugated metal pipes that you can snake down the chimney and connect to the exhaust pipe of your heater.

Slurry Solution

Some chimney companies can reduce the size of the chimney by pumping a cement slurry around a giant inflatable bladder. Low moisture content cement and vermiculite mortars can also be used to create a new inner lining.

If you decide to reline your chimney, by all means make sure you do it under the guidance of your local building department officials.

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4 Responses to Water Heater Venting

  1. Hello,

    I am having a natural gas high efficiency furnace installed in 2 days.

    Presently, my natural gas hot water heater vent connects to my old gas furnace vent which connects to the bottom of the galvanized steal chimney.

    My new furnace of course will be vented directly, horizontally out a side wall of the house.

    Can my got water vent be connected to the new furnace vent?

  2. Hi Tim,

    To update this dilemma/situation, which is preferable: route a new water heater through chimney flue (meeting appropriate codes) or install a power vent heater with a PVC pipe through the exterior wall? Does this orphan the regular fireplace chimney or improve it?

    Thanks so much in advance!

  3. hi tim..I have a wood burning fireplace that is still operational, and in my basement where the ash clean out is , i have 2 exhausts connected (my hvac heat and h2o heater) venting out into the chimney.... how can i remedy the backdraft? also as for finding out if this work has been done according to fire code, would i just call my local FD to have them inspect? thanks in advance for you help.

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