AsktheBuilder mp3 Radio Show July 16 2005

Summary: Tim opens the show talking about soil moisture problems caused by the dry weather. Caller questions include removing deep mildew stains from grout, condensation on basement walls, the best roof ventilation, wall cracks from dry soil and sewer rats in a city house. Yeeech!

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Tim Talks About Soil Moisture and How to Prevent Sturctural Cracks from Settlement

Melinda - Removing Deep Mildew Stains in Tile Grout

Mike - Black Streaks on White Gutters

Marla - Condensation on Basement Walls

Ray - Best Roofing Ventilation

Peggy - Wall Cracks From Dry Soil

Sylvia - Sewer Rat Infestation

Books on Fences

wrough iron fence & kids

Reading Pays Off

If you are thinking of doing some fence building on your own, one or more of these books may save you lots of time and money. Most of them have great illustrations and clear instructions. There are other fence books out there as well. Read several to obtain multiple viewpoints. No one person has all of the correct answers!

Books on Fencing

There are some spectacular books on the subject of fencing. Some are simply idea and technique books, while others are detailed do-it-yourself books that take you through the entire process. I was unable to find a book devoted entirely to chain link fencing. Some of the books had chapters on it, though. I did find some great books, listed below, that you can click on at the bottom of this page and order.

Fences and Gates by Sunset Books

Master the basics of building fences and gates. Step-by-step illustrations guide you every step of the way from planning to building, maintenance to repair.

Tricks of the trade help you achieve professional results. You'll find out: How to plot a curve...How to mix your own concrete...How to use a water level...How to brace a gate. Color photos provide examples of different styles and materials available. "Toolkits" tell you exactly what tools you'll need for each job.

Sunset editors demonstrate the latest tools, techniques, and materials to make your work easier and safer, and show how to save time and money on your next home improvement job.

Fences and Retaining Walls by William C. McElroy

Everything you need to know to run a profitable business in fence and retaining wall contracting. Takes you through layout and design, construction techniques for wood, masonry, and chain link fences, gates and entries, including finishing and electrical details. How to build retaining and rock walls. How to get your business off to the right start, keep the books, and estimate accurately.

A Portfolio of Fence and Gate Ideas By Cy Decosse

This book has some interesting ideas! Model a fence from this book and you will be the talk of the neighborhood!

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Engineered I Joist Advantages

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I remember the first time I saw engineered I joists used in a job here in Cincinnati. I would be willing to bet $500 that it was in the late 1970's. They were the floor joist components of a mini-condominium project. One of the condo units was half finished and the owner had abandoned the project. I was considering purchasing the condo to finish it out for resale. I didn't buy the condo - the reason had nothing to do with the floor joists although I must admit I had my reservations about the seemingly undersized structural material!

Think Steel

The next time you pass buy a commercial building under construction or you can view a traditional I beam up close, I want you to really look at the way one of those is made. Look at how thin the steel web or center portion of the beam actually is. Often they are just slightly thicker than 1/4 inch! I then want you to imagine how much weight one of these single beams can carry. Note that the beams don't have to be 1.5 inches thick - the thickness of a standard floor joist - to do the job.

It should come as no surprise that wood I beams can copy the same format as steel I beams and do so with predictable, consistent strength results. This is exactly how engineered wood I joists were born.

Different Depths

The stiffness or load bearing capacity of a beam (steel or wood) is a function of the distance the beam spans, the type of material it is made from, and the depth or height of the beam. You can demonstrate this very easily.

Imagine framing a floor using 2x4's as floor joists. If you made those span a typical 13 foot space, I don't know if I would walk across the floor. If it didn't collapse under my weight, it would most certainly sag! Now, substitute 2x12 joists in the same system. You and I both know that the floor system will be as strong as can be and 30 people standing on the floor probably would make little difference. The strength of the floor system increased at a faster rate than the depth of the joist material. In other words, the difference in depth of the joists increased by about 3.5 times, but the strength of the system increased possibly by a factor of 20 or more. All of this simply because we increased the depth of the joist or beam!

The new engineered floor joists can be purchased in a variety of depths that range from 10 inches to 16 inches. Each depth can be purchased with different top and bottom flanges as well. All of these things factor into the allowable distances you can span with each type of joist.

If you want a stiff floor, you simply go with a deeper floor joist or shorten the span of the floor joist. All of these considerations should be done by a structural engineer who designs floor systems. Don't even think about trying to guess what size you need!

Programs Also

The engineers who design I joist floor systems use very sophisticated computer programs that were developed by the floor joist manufacturers. The engineers simply have to enter in certain data about the size of the house and the anticipated floor loads and BINGO! out comes the recommended floor joist size. Don't even bother about asking to get this software. It is only available to engineers and lumber company professionals who are trained how to use it. Floor design is NOT a DIY project.

I-Joist Advantages

The APA PRI-400 standard makes engineered wood I joists easy to specify and order.

I joists install much in the same manner as traditional wood floor joists. There are several things you must do to insure a fault free installation, however this can usually be learned in several hours. No single detail is very complicated. All of these details are illustrated exceptionally well in a FREE booklet that is offered by the APA. Visit the Engineered Wood Association's web site at www.apawood.org and check under publications for information that can be downloaded.

I joists are available in deeper depths than standard floor joists. The largest standard floor joist is a 2x12. You can order I joists in depths up to 16 inches! This allows you to span greater distances which normally translates to wide open spaces.

I joists are also more consistent in size and shape than traditional floor joists. Some new flooring materials (laminate flooring) can't be installed over traditional floor joists that have different height crowns. You don't have this problem with I joists! They are true and straight all of the time.

I joist span design standards make them a stiffer floor. This can help reduce squeaks. It also makes a more solid floor. I joists are superb. Give them a serious look!

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Approved Engineered I Joist Manufacturers

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Approved Engineered I Joist Manufacturers

On July 4, 1997, the Engineered Wood Association announced its revolutionary Performance Standard PRI-400. Prior to this program, each engineered I joist had it own set of rules with respect to loads, installation, drilling, etc. It was enough to drive the average carpenter and builder bananas.

Now builders, carpenters, homeowners, and building inspectors have a uniform set of standards, rules and guidelines to follow when specifying, ordering, and installing the I joist products. This is a major step forward for the industry as now the product becomes much more user friendly.

The following is a list of the manufacturers of engineered I joists who make joists that meet the PRI-400 guidelines. I urge you to contact each one and get some information. You will not be disappointed.

  • Georgia Pacific Corp.
    133 Peachtree Street NE
    Atlanta, Georgia 30303
    800-839-2588 (Eastern States)
    800-830-7370 (Western States)
  • International Beams Inc.
    418 St-Dizier Street
    Montreal, Quebec
    Canada H2Y 3P8
    866-457-4043
  • Standard Structures Inc.
    P.O. Box K
    Santa Rosa, CA 95402
    707-836-8100
  • Anthony-Domtar Inc.
    309 North Washington

    El Dorado, AR 71730
    870-862-3414

A FREE Super Booklet

How would you like a FREE 35 page color booklet on everything you ever wanted to know about engineered I joists? It is yours for the asking. All you have to do is contact the Engineered Wood Association. Here is what you ask for:

  • Design / Construction Guide
    I - Joists for Residential Floors

Contact them at:

  • [email protected]
  • Publication Order Desk
    Engineered Wood Association
    7011 S. 19th St.
    Tacoma, WA 98411-0700
    253-620-7407

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Installing Engineered I Joists

I joists are somewhat tender. In other words, they derive an enormous amount of their design strength from the top and bottom flanges. For this reason, you must never cut, drill or notch a top or bottom flange. The only time you can cut a flange is when you are cutting the I joist for length.

Storage and Handling

When you receive the I joist shipment, look immediately for the written APA installation guidelines. Read these and make sure the lead carpenter has a copy at the jobsite at all times.

Don't store I joists on their sides. Keep them standing upright and in their original bundles until such time as you need to use them.

Make sure the joists are not in contact with wet ground or soil. Unload them onto pallets or 4x4's well up off the ground.

Keep the I joists as dry as possible. Cover with plastic, but do not allow the plastic to make a tent that traps water vapor from the soil!

Do not handle or carry the I joists flat, This is their weakest orientation. It is very possible for you to crack one if carried in this fashion.

Absolutely NEVER use a damaged or field repaired I joist. Cut out the damaged section and use the remaining pieces for small joist locations.

Exterior Applications

You can't use I joists where they will be permanently exposed to the weather such as a cantilevered deck or where they will achieve a moisture content greater than 16 percent. In other words, don't use them near swimming pools or large hot tub areas. These environments pump massive quantities of water vapor into the air around the joists.

Bearing Points

I joists need a minimum of 1 and 3/4 inches of bearing at each end. Multiple span joists - those that stretch through a house must have an intermediate bearing point of no less than 3 and 1/2 inches.

Prevent End Joist Rollover

Where joists rest on a foundation wall and terminate, they must be blocked to prevent them from falling over. Traditional floor joists are simply nailed into the band board. You can't do this with I joists! You solve the problem by installing a special APA Rim Board or I joist blocking panels in between each joist.

Cutting Holes in the Webs

ALWAYS refer to the Hole Cutting Guide in the enclosed installation instructions!

Always attempt to center the holes that are cut into I joists. This will balance the forces within the joist.

Believe it or not, the maximum sized hole you can cut into an I joist web shall be equal to the clear distance between the top and bottom flange minus 1/4 inch. This hole must be centered so that 1/8 inch of web material remains between the hole and the top and bottom flange.

The factory pre-punched knockouts are not considered a hole. You don't have to figure these things into hole spacing calculations.

Holes must be neat and circular. Use a compass, bucket, paint can, pipe fitting or other perfectly round object as your layout guide. Cuts must be nice and neat.

Only cut as large a hole as you need. Never overcut a hole!

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Plywood and OSB Literature

Plywood and OSB Literature

Many of the sources from the Engineered Wood Association (http://www.apawood.org/) are available to the general public at no charge, because they want all of us to become aware of the correct way to use their products.

Unfortunately, product failures and disappointments happen because a product was not used the way it was supposed to be used. A previous owner may have made the mistake, not you. The net result is that you become disenchanted. If you take the time to get educated, then you get maximum benefit from the products.

Take plywood for example. For the most part, it all looks the same. Nothing could be further from the truth! You must use the right plywood for the right job or you can have all sorts of problems. Plywood made according to the Engineered Wood Association Guidelines carries a stamp or label that tells you how to use it. You just need to know how to interpret the coding.

I urge you to visit the web site of the Engineered Wood Association. Click on their Publications Store to get a list of all free publications.

Related Articles:

Plywood and OSB

OSB Quality

Build with Wet OSB

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OSB Board Qualities

OSB Plywood

OSB Board

I will always remember the first time I used oriented strand board (OSB). It was offered as a substitute for roof sheathing on a commercial building I built in the late 1980's. The project budget was tight, the product passed code, and it was certified. I thought I would give it a try. Wow! It was a different beast. The product was heavy, it was very slippery on one side, and it reacted violently when it got wet. If you can't tell, I wasn't very happy. But, you need to try things.

First Generation

The OSB I was using was some of the first that was introduced to the Cincinnati, Ohio, marketplace. As with all new products, it didn't have all of the bugs worked out of it. For the most part, the product hasn't changed too much at all, other than it has gained widespread acceptance among many builders and remodelers. If OSB gets wet, it still swells. It still is somewhat heavy. It has many great application uses and when used as directed it is a good substitute for plywood in many situations.

Cost it Out

Plywood and OSB are commodity items. This means that the price of the finished product can and does fluctuate in direct response to supply and demand. In other words, the pricing is not always stable.

If you have a job coming up and you feel plywood might be a better choice, then cost it out. There may only be a small up-charge to get plywood. Sometimes the cost is less than one dollar per sheet. If you have only 150 sheets on a job, then the slight cost differential might well be worth it to you.

Imposters!

There are products out there that look like OSB. Waferboards, flakeboards, fiberboards and such are not OSB. When you use OSB for a roof, sidewall or sub-floor, it MUST have the APA label. If it doesn't, don't use it.

OSB Limitations

OSB can do many things that plywood can, but not everything. Because the wood strands in OSB are encapsulated with the bonding resin, chemical treatments can't penetrate into the wood fibers. This means that you can't successfully treat OSB with fire and moisture resistant chemicals. Did you know that many, many people don't realize that you can actually buy treated plywood just as you buy treated lumber? Friends of mine are always amazed when I show them treated plywood that I have used on an outdoor play set of mine.

The Cryptic Label

How many times have you seen the stamped label on a sheet of plywood or OSB? I have seen tens of thousands of them. The truth is, I never really paid much attention to them before. These labels holds all sorts of valuable information. They tell you if you are about to use the right product! For example, say you want to use a piece of plywood for an outside sign. You buy a regular sheet that says "Exposure 1" on it and feel comfortable because this type has held up well for months in a building situation. It would be the wrong product!

You want the label to say Exterior, not "Exposure 1".

The labels contain all sorts of information that will help you keep money in your pocket. If you install the wrong material and something goes wrong in the future, the factory representative will look at the label to see if you used the right product in the right place.

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Deck Care Product Manufacturers

Deck Care Product Manufacturers

If you are looking at a product that is manufactured by some other company, it may be a good product. One way to determine this is by cost. The resins and UV protectors used in these products that do the actual sealing or protecting are often the most expensive component of the sealer. If you are looking at a product that costs substantially less than the listed national brands, BEWARE! It may not contain an adequate amount of necessary resins.

EB015 Cleaning & Sealing Deck eBoo Cover

  • Sikkens
  • Cuprinol
  • Duckback Products, Inc.
  • Flood Company
  • Olympic/PPG Architectural Finishes, Inc.
  • Saver Systems
  • Thompson's
  • Wolman Deck Care Products

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Deck Product Tips

Deck Cleaners, Brighteners, Sealants & Finishes

Nothing looks worse than a treated lumber deck that has been abused by the sun, wind and rain. Especially if the deck is less than one year old! Lumber prices have soared during the past two years. Deck installation often represents a major financial investment. It is not quite unlike a new car purchase. Just as you periodically wash and wax a new car to protect the investment, treated lumber decks require similar treatment.

The Misconception

I have been installing treated lumber for approximately 20 years. When I first purchased it, it was sold as a lifetime product that required no care. There were virtually no deck care products on the market in the 1970's. It is my opinion that the producers of treated lumber felt that the chemical treatment protected the wood from the effects of water and sunlight. They were wrong!

Treated lumber, after it was installed, often misbehaved. It was the subject of many customer complaints. Homeowners objected to the warping, cupping, twisting, splitting and checking that would occur in short order. For many years the lumber companies simply dealt with these complaints by saying, "All wood shrinks and swells when exposed to the weather."

Homeowners also became disenchanted with the color change that decks experienced. Treated lumber would often turn an unsightly grey color. Algae and mildew would introduce green and black from the color palette. Something had to be done to relieve the situation.

Deck Lumber at 1000x

EB015 Cleaning & Sealing Deck eBoo CoverPerhaps if you could see just what a piece of lumber looks like up close and personal, you would understand the need for sealing wood that is exposed to the elements.

Imagine a 70 foot tall oak tree (or any species for that matter) in your front yard. If you made a clean cut through the tree with a saw and looked at the end of the cut through a microscope, you would be amazed. The view though the microscope would look like a hat box packed solid with drinking straws standing up straight. You would be looking down thousands of little tubes.

When logs are cut up for deck lumber, they are almost always flat sawn. This method allows the lumber mills to maximize the amount of timber from any given log. But flat sawing carries with it a price tag. Remember the hat box full of straws? If you sanded flat or cut flat a surface of the side of the hat box, you would end up with numerous straws that are now open to the weather.

The long tubes at the surface of the piece of flat sawn wood become half rounded channels that can collect, dirt, water, bacteria, etc.

Coatings to the Rescue!

Because of the problems and complaints that we discussed earlier, the coatings (paint) industry developed products to seal treated lumber. This industry has long known that unprotected wood can suffer immensely from sunlight and repeated cycles of wetting and drying.

The new deck sealers are coatings. Some of them penetrate the wood and others form a film on top of the wood surface. In either case, the performance of the product is directly related to how well the coating can bond or soak into the wood. Excellent bonding can only be achieved when wood is clean and free from all debris.

Cleaners & Brighteners

Ultraviolet (UV) light from the sun damages and breaks down wood fibers that are at the surface of a piece of wood. The sunlight also causes these fibers to discolor as they decay. This discoloration usually results in a grey cast to the wood. Certain deck cleaners and brighteners are designed to remove these decayed and discolored fibers. This process exposes the next layer of fibers that have the original color of the wood. That is why your deck looks good immediately after using certain deck cleaning products.

There are four basic forms of cleaners and brighteners. One type contains forms of chlorine bleach (sodium hypochlorite or calcium hypochlorite.) These products do a good job of killing and removing mildew. However, these products often do not have great cleaning powers, nor do they do much to remove sun damaged wood fibers. In fact, chlorine bleaches are such a strong oxidizing agent, they can actually weaken the freshly exposed wood tubes (cells.) Chlorine bleaches remove colors. They do this in your laundry very effectively. They also remove the natural colors in wood! Chlorine bleach, when used in strong enough concentrations, can actually corrode iron fasteners (nails, nuts and bolts) that hold a deck together. These bleaches can also cause harm to vegetation surrounding your deck.

Another type of cleaner/brightener contains sodium percarbonate. This chemical does not harm vegetation. It does a good job of removing dirt, mildew, algae and sun damaged wood fibers. Sodium percarbonate dissolves easily in water and is a great oxidizing type cleaner. It will not discolor the wood on your deck, unless you use it on new redwood. In this instance it can darken new redwood substantially. Sodium percarbonate is very environmentally friendly. When this chemical is dissolved in water, all you get is hydrogen peroxide (used in toothpaste and as an antiseptic for wounds), soda ash and water. The only caution in using products that contain sodium percarbonate: KEEP THEM AWAY FROM YOUR EYES! They can cause severe irritation.

The final two cleaners that can be used are trisodium phosphate and oxalic acid. Trisodium phosphate and oxalic acid are recommended by the California Redwood Association for cleaning redwood. Oxalic acid is great for removing rust stains, but that's about it. It really doesn't work that well on dirt and mildew.

Some deck cleaners say on their labels that they merely need to be sprayed on - wait so many minutes - and hose or rinse off . This is not a great idea. In my opinion, it is merely a sales tactic to make you feel like you have less work to do.

The best cleaning results are achieved by applying these cleaners, letting them soak for the required time and scrubbing the surface with a stiff brush before rinsing. The scrubbing or brushing is very important!

Oxidizing cleaners like sodium percarbonate work best when the temperature is warm. As such, mix these chemicals with warm water and try to apply them to wood that is also warm. Be sure to follow the directions on the product label for best results.

Repellents & Sealers

Water repellents and sealers are terms that are used interchangeably. For all intents and purposes they are the same. These basic products simply protect wood from all forms of water (rain, snow, ice, dew, high humidity.)

Beware of all-purpose sealers that say they can treat wood, masonry and brick. These products may not be the best thing for your treated lumber.

If you want the highest level of protection against water, look for a federal specification on the product label. The product should say that it meets or exceeds federal water repellency specification "TT-W-572B, p. 3.7". If it doesn't, find another product that does pass this test.

Sealers and repellents are available with or without mildew and algae protection agents. These are often called mildewcides and algaecides. Unless you live in a desert climate, purchase products that do contain these extra chemicals.

Wood Finishes

These products are almost always one step better than simple sealers or repellents. They often contain extra ingredients (pigments, resins and oils) that allow them to effectively block UV light. The important thing to realize is that these finishes are formulated to be applied on horizontal surfaces. Flat, horizontal surfaces are the toughest things to protect from sun and water. They directly absorb the intense noon sunlight. Water from rain, dew, etc. just sits on a flat board until it evaporates.

The better products will not peel or blister. They also are designed to breathe and let excess water escape from the wood.

When to Apply?

Let's assume you just had a new deck constructed. There are two types of wood that could have been used: one without factory sealers and one with. If you plan to use treated lumber which does not have a factory applied sealer, you must seal it as soon as the wood is dry to touch. This may be immediately, or it may take several days if the lumber is really saturated with the preservative chemicals from the treating plant. Just one to two weeks exposure to sunlight and the drying effects of wind and sun can cause massive problems.

If you purchase treated lumber that has been sealed at the factory, it will say so on a label that is usually attached to the end of each board. Don't necessarily trust verbal words from the salesperson at the lumberyard or home center store. Also, most treated lumber manufacturers have literature telling you how to care for their products. Ask for it.

These factory treated sealants can last for up to one year. They are not meant to be permanent sealers.

Application

Often, I see homeowners get too aggressive with sealers and wood finishes. They flood the surface of the wood and leave way too much product on the wood. This is a mistake.

If too much wood finish is applied, it will fail. The finish will quite possibly peel, blister, check or crack. Remember, the products need to dry at a certain rate in order to achieve their designed hardness. If too much finish is on the surface, uneven drying results will lead to the problems listed above.

Be sure to follow the directions on the label of whichever product you purchase. All too often I find out that people pop the lid and just start spraying and brushing. What a mistake!

Related Articles: Treated Lumber, Deck Product Manufacturers

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Consumer Reports – Deck Sealers

Consumer Reports for Deck Sealers

I urge you to visit your local library and view a copy of the current consumer reports for deck sealers. Here are the May, 1997 and the June, 1999 issues of Consumer Reports. These articles refer to the special announcement regarding early results from a five year study consumer reports has conducted on deck care products. At the end of one year, nine products failed so miserably they felt they had to warn the consumer - that's you!

Cleaning & Sealing Your Dock eBook cover

They also listed some products that were doing very well after the first year. Each spring they revisit the topic and give new updated information. Based upon the May, 1997 article, here is a list of the products you should avoid at all costs:

  • Behr #92 NWF Clear
  • Behr #89 Clear Preservative
  • DAP Water Repellent VOC
  • DAP Water Repellent Sealer
  • Sears Weatherbeater #18065
  • Thompson's Water Seal
  • Thompson's Water Seal Ultra
  • Tru-Test Tru-Seal
  • Wolman Raincoat

Here is a list of products that Consumer Reports is having good luck with after one year:

  • Behr Plus 10
  • Cabot Decking Stain and PTW Stain
  • Olympic Water Repellent Deck Stain
  • Thompson's House and Deck Stain
  • Wolman PTW Deck Stain
  • Akzo Sikkens Cetol DEK
  • Benjamin Moore Moorwood Clear Wood finish
  • DAP Woodlife Premium
  • Olympic Natural Look Protector Plus

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