Floor Joist Best Practices

floor joist exterior wall

These floor joists are resting on an exterior bearing wall, while on the other end they sit in metal joist hangers nailed to a wood beam. Photo Credit: Tim Carter

DEAR TIM: This year I'm going to build a room addition because moving to a bigger home is just out of the question. I've never done rough framing for a subfloor and wonder all about the floor joists. I've got countless questions about them, and wonder if you can offer a quick tutorial on the top things one should know about selecting and installing wood floor joists. My guess is that you've handled quite a few and can shed some light on how I can have floors in my room addition that perform really well. Bob S., Rochester, NY

DEAR BOB: Something tells me that entire books have been written on the subject of floor joists. It's going to be impossible for me, in this tiny space, to give the topic the attention it truly deserves.

I think the best place to start is to understand that each floor joist is actually a beam in and of itself. A beam is a structural member that spans an opening and is supported at each end. When you place any number of these beams parallel with one another and then cover them with some other surface, you end up with a floor that you can walk on.

Any structural engineer will tell you that each specific beam, or floor joist, can only support a certain amount of weight based on its composition, size, its overall length between the points where each end rests, the spacing between each floor joist, etc.

It gets even more complex. There are scientific span tables that are referenced in the building code that tell you the minimum standards that the floor joist in your room addition must meet. These span tables tell you the maximum span a floor joist can achieve depending on the anticipated load on the joist.

Not all floor joist lumber has the same strength and even wood of the same species, but of a different grade, will have different strength characteristics. And you thought this was going to be easy.

Your building inspector will hopefully assist you in conjunction with the manager of your local lumber yard in picking the correct material for your job. Be aware that lumber yards have a far greater inventory of floor joists than the home centers or big box stores. Absolutely visit a real lumber yard to get some advice on strong and affordable floor joist lumber.

The common spacing between floor joists is 16 inches on center. Look inside old homes or warehouses and you'll often see funny cross bracing between the floor joists. This is often referred to as bridging. These pieces of lumber help to transfer the load of one joist to the joists on either side of it.

If you decide to install bridging, be sure the pieces don't touch one another. This can lead to floor squeaks as the bridging rubs against one another when someone walks above on the floor. The building code in your area may not require you to install bridging.

When you go to install a floor joist, you need to pay attention to its crown. Have you ever looked at large bridges from a distance? Almost every bridge has a hump in it with the center of the bridge being higher than the ends of the bridge. This is a crown. You need to make sure the hump in each floor joist is pointing to the sky.

Joists that have severe crowns need to be set aside or some of the crown needs to be trimmed off so the floor remains fairly flat once covered with plywood or oriented strand board. If you purchase engineered floor joists that resemble steel I-beams, these have no crown in them.

Floor joists are usually set on top of a special piece of lumber on top of a foundation. This plate needs to last a long time and isolate the floor joists from damage.

Wood destroying insects and wood fungi can destroy the wood in houses. The insects frequently start feasting on wood that's in direct contact with the masonry foundations. It's a building code requirement to use treated lumber where wood contacts masonry.

This treated lumber resists wood rot as it's immune to damage from moisture. Termites and carpenter ants find the chemicals in the wood none to tasty and often decide to find other more palatable wood. The first piece of lumber commonly attached to the top of a house foundation is often called a sill plate. This treated lumber is bolted to the foundation and the floor joists typically rest on it.

You can watch an informative video that shows a treated lumber sill plate and how it rests on a foundation. Just click here“sill plate video”.

Column 927

Deck Construction Correction Tip

Alan Peck's Deck

Alan Peck's Deck

"Hi Tim,

Every year, I have about 1000 sq. ft. of deck to clean and maintain. Pine needles are my largest problem. The only tool I have found to work is a variable set square that has a handle part and a blade that can folded back into the handle or locked at any angle. I just use it set straight as a scrapper that I can run down the decking gaps.

Cleaning & Sealing Deck eBook CoverOn the issue of gaps that are two narrow, mostly because the deck was set down badly, what would you think of my running a power saw down the gap? Of course I'd have to ensure the blade depth did not cut into any of the cross beams.

The deck is in good condition considering it is about 25 years old now. The surface is 2x6 pressure treated. I've been contemplating widening the narrow gaps for a few years now, but am wondering if that would damage the pressure treating. Am I right in thinking that the chemicals from pressure treatment are long gone?

Thank you,"

Alan Peck

 

Alan,

You can absolutely widen the gap with a circular saw. Set the depth just 1/16th inch more than the thickness of the deck boards.

Your challenge will be to cut in the center of the groove. If you take your time, you should do fine.

Cutting the boards will not affect the chemical composition at all. I'd venture to say the boards still have quite a bit of chemical treatment in them.

Tim Carter

Shed Door Latch Tip

 

Subscriber Terry Hretsina forwarded his tip of keeping the shed doors open when going in and out.

"Hi Tim,

Being a subscriber, I thought I would pass this little helpful hint to you in case some of your subscribers are looking for ways to keep a shed door open for a short time.

What I did is put a piece of 2x6 (cut a short length) and screwed a hinge on the door frame and on the piece of wood.

Picture 1: When I open the door wide, I flip the piece of wood inside the space of the shed door and then snug the door gently so it stays. If there is no wind, it stays open.

Picture 2: For you to go in and out of the shed. If you want to keep it open, you can always attach a 'hasp and staple' type of hatch to the wood or just use a 'hatch and staple' latch by itself."

Terry

Senco F-18 Finish Nailer Review

Senco F-18 Nailer

Senco F-18 Nailer

I’ve installed tens of thousands of finish nails in my career, many by hand, but most using finish nailers. The first finish nailer I used was a pneumatic Senco nail gun that I purchased back in the late 1980’s. I still wish I had that tool, as it would have been a great photo for this review to show it up against the stylish and radical F-18 nailer from Senco that I just finished testing.

The bottom line is they both performed flawlessly, albeit the new F-18 has only been used in a testing environment, not on a rough and tumble job site. But if it’s made anything like my old Senco gun, it’s going to perform like a champ in a new house job or a remodeling environment. (Click here to read my review of the Senco F-15 Finish Nailer.)

Out of the box, you get the F-18 tool, one 18-volt lithium-ion battery, the battery charger and the handsome soft-sided carrying case. The soft case has some very nice external pockets to carry boxes of nails or other supplies. It also sported a handy zippered pocket.

Here’s the magic of this nailer. In the past, you would need a compressor and hoses to operate a nail gun. Decades ago, Paslode freed us from this spaghetti, but you had to buy small canisters of propane to power their guns. Senco, and other manufacturers, are now using electricity and compressed air to drive nails. It’s caveman simple when you think about it.

The Senco website lists these top selling features that should get your attention:

  • Patented Reflex-Shot design
  • Robust aluminum drive cylinder
  • Rugged aluminum magazine
  • Eco-Friendly energy - 18v Li-ion battery
  • Selectable drive switch
  • Nose mounted LED light
  • Adjustable & reversible belt hook
  • Thumbwheel depth of drive Innovative
  • EZ-Clear feature
  • Includes case and charger 2-year limited warranty

Here’s what I liked about the tool:

  • Aggressive design that exudes power and strength
  • Comfortable grip
  • Lightweight
  • No compressor
  • No hoses
  • No gas cartridges
  • Dry-fire prevention sensor
  • Sequential or Contact Firing Mode
  • Power Meter on the Battery

Here’s what had me scratching my head wondering what the engineers and tool designers were thinking:

Why doesn’t the nose-mounted LED light shine exactly where the nose of the tool will be placed? Come on Senco, I can see how to put two more LEDs one on each of the sides of the sloping nose to get light right where I need it.

Why is it so noisy? And my hearing is shot after all these years.

Why are the detents on the mode switch so subtle? They need to be more aggressive.

Why, for goodness sake, doesn’t the tool come with a starter kit with an assortment of nails for instant productivity? Gift buyers won’t necessarily know to get nails when they buy the gun.

Why is the gearing on the depth-of-drive-adjustment so fine? It takes lots of turns to get the nail to go deeper into the wood.

The bottom line is that this is a great finish nailer. It’s going to do lots of work for you and without any downtime if it’s like my old gun. I’d be proud to show it off and use it at one of my job sites.

My rating for this tool is 4 hammers out of a possible 5.

Turning Attic Space into Bedrooms

Matt Glewwe and his wife converted an unused, uninsulated attic space into bedrooms for the children. Matt included a special feature for the kids.

"Tim,

Not sure if you are still looking for photos, but if you are, here are a few shots (before, during and after) of a project my wife and I did on our 1939 Cape Cod in St. Paul, MN.

Beyond the knee wall on our 1-1/2 story house, there was just uninsulated and unfinished space that had been used for storage. When we were expecting our first child, we thought these spaces would be fantastic as little rooms for kids to sleep in, play in or just spend time in. We now have four children and they all love these little rooms.

We insulated, sheet-rocked, put in lights and added a small window. There were actually two rooms like this (one on each end of the house) and then there is a tighter spot that connected the two rooms. My wife wanted to just cover it up, but I insisted that we create a tunnel between the two rooms. This is the highlight for our children as well as their friends when they come over to play!

I am sure that actual material cost was less than $500, but there was quite a bit of time invested in doing all of our own labor, including sheet-rocking and mudding spaces that most people would not want to go into!

My wife and I both have Master Degrees in Architecture, from the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. We own a small residential design firm, and would love it if you could link to our website if you use this project on your website. Could you please let us know if you use this?

www.gsqrd.com

Thank you,"

Matt Glewwe

Well, Matt, I used your photos and the project looks great. Had to be fun working on the tunnel!!

Before remodeling

Working on the Tunnel

 

If you want to submit pictures and the story behind your project, CLICK HERE to go to the Before & After Submission Page.

March 17, 2012 AsktheBuilder Newsletter And Tips

This is NOT a normal newsletter if you just subscribed in the past few days.

A real newsletter is coming out on Tuesday, but I had two things to share this weekend.

Happy St. Patrick's Day by the way!

New Website Design

How do you like the new website design at AsktheBuilder.com? We've been working very hard on it for months. Tell me if you think it's faster.

You do know that you can adjust the size of the type you see on your monitor by adjusting the Preferences in your browser software, right? I often get complaints about that. You can make the type font bigger or smaller at your end within seconds by navigating to where you adjust the font size.

If you need to find an answer to your question(s), ALWAYS use the search engine box that's now at the bottom of your screen. It floats along with you as you scroll down the page. We're making it more prominent today.

I'm also loading a new Welcome video that will be in the upper right corner of each page. That should help educate visitors on how to best use the website.

See the social media tool in the upper left of each page? I would *really* appreciate it if you would use this heavily. Please Like each page you're on Facebook assuming you find the information on that page helpful.

Do the same with the Twitter button. Use the Share button to email the page to yourself, a friend or someone else. If you're a Google Plus person, click that button on each page you're at assuming you feel that page is useful to others. That's what it's all about. I'm trying to help you with great free information, and I'd appreciate it if you would help me in return. You do just that by clicking those buttons each time you're at the site.

I'm going to explain why clicking these buttons on each page is so vitally important in a blog post on Tuesday. There's big search engine change in the wind, and I absolutely need your help now.

The Tool Review section is empty right now, but you'll see the first review up on Tuesday. I started testing the Senco Lithium-Ion F-18 Finish Nailer yesterday. Early Line: WOW! You'll not want to miss that review.

If you work for a PR firm that represents a tool manufacturer, or work for the actual manufacturer, you'll want to start sending me tools to review.

They can be hand tools or power tools. Send any tool that's of great quality and people can buy now. You have to fill out the form at this page to do it.

Deck Cleaning and Sealing eBook

About ten days ago, I did an overview from 45,000 feet on deck cleaning and sealing. That's the altitude private jets travel. I discovered that fact from a friend last fall. They fly higher than commercial aircraft because the air is thinner up there and the private jets can go faster. Isn't that amazing? I never knew that. But I digress.

I got SO MANY questions from subscribers like you after that feature in the March 6th newsletter, that I decided the topic is worthy of a book.

I'm soliciting questions from you right now. Please send me your burning questions about deck cleaning and sealing ASAP.

Please do not ask questions about Building a Deck. That's going to be a future eBook.

I'm just looking for questions about cleaning, sealing and minor repairs you have to make before you clean and seal. You can ask questions about regular care or things you feel might harm a deck. Or maybe it's about snow and ice.

I already have all the normal ones like:

  • What's the best sealer?
  • What's the best cleaner?
  • How do I remove tough stains?
  • Ventilation questions
  • etc.

Please list each of your questions on a separate line in your reply. Please change the Subject Line to: Deck Questions.

Finally, I've been searching for a deck flossing tool. I can't seem to find it. This is a tool that would remove organic debris from between tightly spaced decking boards.

Do you know of such a tool? Yes, I realize you can blast away at this with a pressure washer, but that can damage wood surfaces.

I'm looking for some sort of thin metal tool that can be put in the groove.

Ugliest Bathroom Makeover

Joel Williams responded to my request for Before and After pictures. He provided this story and the related photos for the winner of the Ugliest Bathroom Contest. Here is his email. Click on any of the images below for a higher resolution view.

"Tim:

In a recent newsletter you requested before and after images of bathroom remodels.

Attached are some additions to your website from a winner of America’s Ugliest Bathroom contest, by American Standard Brands.

As the contest winner, homeowner Darlene Wetzel received $10,000 in new plumbing products and fixtures to upgrade her family’s eyesore to what she calls, “right out of a magazine.”

Contractor Shane McGarvey (Campbell, NY) helped Wetzel design a multipurpose bathroom for her family that included a stacked washer and dryer and laundry folding table. The goal was to create a bathroom with very clean lines that was both modern and welcoming. Wetzel, who suffers from Multiple Sclerosis, opted for a walk-in bathtub, “that would be easy for me to use when I wasn't feeling well.” She says she is now able to enjoy relaxing heated baths and appreciates muscle therapy offered by the whirlpool jets. McGarvey added a pocket door to free up space and allow for wheelchair accessibility.

Wetzel also fell in love with the warmth of the dark vanity and the clean lines of the white sink/top. In particular, she appreciates the vanity’s storage drawers that put daily essentials right at her fingertips but allow her to tuck them away to maintain her “right out of a magazine bathroom.”

Tim, as I mentioned, we’ve included several before and after images for your consideration. Like me, I’m sure your viewers would be interested in seeing this transformation from ugly duckling to magazine style. Come to think of it, I could use a similar transformation….

This hasn't been published anywhere; thought you might be able to use it.

Thanks,"

Joel Williams

 

If you want to submit pictures and the story behind your project, CLICK HERE to go to the Before & After Submission Page.

Main Circuit Breaker Shut Off Tip

After reading my Tip of the Week on shutting off the water main, Don of Kitty Hawk, NC, provided this tip on your electric service.

"While you are showing those concerned how to shut off the water - how about also showing them how to shut off the power?

After a near disaster, I labeled our breaker box - just in case I am not close-by.

Regards,"

Don

Main Circut Breaker

Where’s the Water Shut Off Valve?

How many times have you received a reminder about fire drills in your home? Have you disregarded those? Shame on you. We talked about that all the time when my kids were small. They knew if there was a fire in our home exactly what they were supposed to do.

But what about a simple thing like a water leak? You may know where your water shut off valve is, but does everyone in the family? Does everyone know how to turn or operate the valve? Is it blocked by all kinds of stuff in a closet or is it in the basement? Does the valve even work? When was the last time it was exercised? Oh, you didn't know you have to exercise a valve?

Do you turn off your water if you're leaving your home for an extended time? Why not? Do you already have a great relationship with a plumber if you need one in a hurry? Why not? The list of questions is endless.

This is just another reason why I beg you to open each newsletter and read it. I'm trying to help you save thousands of dollars with all the information I'm sharing. You must know how to turn off your water FAST in case of a major leak.

March 14, 2012 AsktheBuilder Newsletter And Tips

What's in this Issue?

Latest News
Free eBook
Impact Driver Tools
Tip of the Week
eBook Survey
Video of the Week
Did I Pick the Right Roofer?
Q & A of the Week

Last Sunday I completed three weeks of crazy travel. I was gone for 18.5 of 21 days. That's pretty insane if you ask me. While I had many ups and downs emotionally in my travels, perhaps the strangest thing happened this past weekend in San Francisco. I was there attending a publishing conference.

The conference was hosted at the Sheraton at Fisherman's Wharf, just one block from the bay. If you've not been to Fisherman's Wharf, it's absolutely the quintessential tourist trap with the wax museum, gift shops, street performers, theme restaurants, etc.

The weekends are packed with people, and at lunchtime I wandered down to the wharf as we had an extended lunch break during the conference. All of a sudden 30-35 naked adults, of all ages, rode by on bicycles in a pack hooting and hollering.

I was so stunned that I couldn't get out my cell phone fast enough to get a video. All you would have seen in the video, had I got it operating, would have been some bum and rump shots and believe me, that was not a pretty sight. Only in San Francisco!

Also, be aware that links at my website MAY BE acting funny today (March 14, 2012). If you experience that, just be patient. There's NO NEED to email me about broken links. My crack technology team is working hard on any issues.

The Free How to Grout Ceramic Floor Tile eBook

I want to thank you if you were one of the thousands that downloaded my How to Grout Ceramic Floor Tile eBook from Amazon this past weekend. It's a very long story and the promotion was last minute. I realize that some were unable to make Amazon's deadline and didn't get a free copy or had technology issues. I apologize for that.

That's one reason why it's really important to open and read each issue of this newsletter. You'll never know what's inside. In the future, I'll try to give you more advance notice.

Also, as I publish more new ebooks, be aware they may never be part of a free promotion. When I uploaded this eBook to Amazon, I gave them the exclusive rights to carry the eBook for the first 90 days. Part of that program includes days when the eBook can be given away for free.

In the future, I may not give the exclusive rights to Amazon and upload it to the other online stores that sell eBooks. If I do this, I'll announce it in this newsletter and tell you that it probably will never be for free.

Thanks for your review if you left one at Amazon for me. I sincerely appreciate it.

I had quite a few folks who wanted to be on the exclusive new email list where you discover what I'm working on. The other benefit of getting on this new list is that you can help collaborate on all new eBooks. You get to tell me what you want to see. Go here to sign up for this new premier AsktheBuilder.com newsletter.

Impact Driver Power Tools

Two weeks ago, I wrote a column about impact drivers. I have a cordless one that has become my best tool buddy. These tools look like a drill, but are really a powered ratchet or screwdriver.

If you're looking for a gift idea for yourself or a loved one, you want to give these tools serious thought. Here's the cordless impact driver I've been using. It's absolutely amazing. There are other ones at Amazon that you may like. Be sure to read the reviews!

Tip of the Week - Where's the Water Shut Off Valve?

How many times have you received a reminder about fire drills in your home? Have you disregarded those? Shame on you. We talked about that all the time when my kids were small. They knew if there was a fire in our home exactly what they were supposed to do.

But what about a simple thing like a water leak? You may know where your water shut off valve is, but does everyone in the family? Does everyone know how to turn or operate the valve? Is it blocked by all kinds of stuff in a closet or is it in the basement? Does the valve even work? When was the last time it was exercised? Oh, you didn't know you have to exercise a valve?

Do you turn off your water if you're leaving your home for an extended time? Why not? Do you already have a great relationship with a plumber if you need one in a hurry? Why not? The list of questions is endless.

This is just another reason why I beg you to open each newsletter and read it. I'm trying to help you save thousands of dollars with all the information I'm sharing. You must know how to turn off your water FAST in case of a major leak.

eBook Survey

I'd be very interested in your opinion about eBooks. Would you please take this quick survey?

Video of the Week - Bearing Wall or Not?

I get lots of email about how to tell whether or not a wall is a bearing wall. This bearing wall video may help you figure it out at your own home.

Did I Pick the Right Roof and Roofer?

Kevin, from Pennsylvania, emailed me last night:

"Tim, I hope I didn't blow it. I just signed a deal with Futureroof systems to install their steel roof product on my home. They are based out of Canada, with regional offices in PA and other states. Looking at about $15k for a tear off and installation of the metal roof. Thanks," Kevin

I responded to Kevin asking him if he had used my Roofing Checklist and Contractor Hiring Guide to help him make the right choice. Sadly he answered "No."

Don't make the same mistake as Kevin. Get my Roofing Contractor Hiring Guide & Checklist and use it to give you the Confidence you've made the right choice.

Q & A of the Week - Adding a New Tub or Shower

DEAR TIM: I would like to add a bathtub in a room that has an existing walk-in shower. The floor of this room is a concrete slab poured directly on the ground. There is a floor drain within 4 feet of where I would like to add the tub. Can I just allow the tub drain to flow over to the floor drain? It seems that would work just fine to me. Or do I have to connect it to the pipes below the slab and add vent piping? I live far out in the country and I doubt an inspector would ever know what happens, one way or the other. Brad G., Waldo, AR

DEAR BRAD: Plumbing codes were not enacted to simply create work for people who might otherwise not be able to....

To discover more about adding a new tub or shower, CLICK HERE.